Hello, fellow members of Above Top Secret.
In the past, I have called upon members to collaborate, to consider alternatives, open their minds, to compromise and to overall seek solutions in
which can benefit the most people. Unfortunately I have been guilty of not doing these things myself, sometimes I close my mind, sometimes I close my
thought process to certain ideas, to certain lines of thinking - I believe I am in a superior position and that I know better, that what I believe and
how I feel somehow are above discussion, that my fears and my worries cannot even be combated with data, statistics, etc. I am guilty of all of this
when it comes to the trans issue - I have taken such a harsh stance against it, I couldn't even see the other side.
I feel the stars and flags I have received writing such topics are not deserved, I feel as if I have caused more division and less unison. I feel as
if I have only fueled this fire that is not burning out. For these things, I apologize, fellow members.
I am sorry.
And so, after writing a all too many negative threads about the Trans topic, I have decided to write a more positive thread - a unison of sorts - An
attempt to understand both sides, and hope that those on all sides of the issue can feel free to discuss all aspects of this debate with me in a more
peaceful environment. My following post in only my thoughts on the matter, and I hope to see your thoughts as well regardless if you agree with me or
not, I'd like a discussion, a coming together on this topic. - Please try to be respectful and honest, and attempt to use water, and not gasoline as I
myself have, on this topic that has become a raging fire as of late.
The way I see it, a lot of contention is coming from both sides not understanding the thoughts, intentions, worries, of the other - Not understanding
where this problem even came from in the first place, not understanding exactly what solution, to exactly what problem is being debated. I've come to
understand the issues, the statistics, and the thoughts on both sides a lot more.
First, to talk about those that are against these laws - I was unapologetic in this stance even days ago. I wasn't going to have it, I wasn't going to
allow a "bearded man" into the same room as my little daughter. I was very angry at those that couldn't understand this stance - Why they keep posting
pictures of "lady-looking" men with racks when I am obviously talking about large bearded men not covered in make-up, not taking hormones. I just
couldn't piece together why this argument wasn't clicking with THEM - But then it clicked with me.
This are neither the circumstances that occur under such laws, and are not the circumstances being advocated for.
There's no laws advocating for cis-gender people to be able to use the opposing restrooms - These laws don't create "free-for-all" situations, these
laws do not invite anyone who feels like entering a private area, to do so. These laws are specifically written to ensure that a person is not
discriminated against in various situations, public areas including bathrooms being just one facet of a larger picture. Statistics show cities and
states have not seen a rise in sexual violence or other public safety issues due to nondiscrimination
Real sex-crime statistics are far more worrying and scary than anyone taking a piss.
Want to really ensure your kids are safe? Keep a better eye on your friends, your brothers, uncles, or husband. I really wish I was kidding but the
overwhelming majority of sexual crimes are committed by someone the person knows. Only 10-15 percent are committed by a stranger.
On the other hand the 10-15% is still scary - not statistically raised by anti-discrimination laws, but nonetheless, I hear you. I believe unisex and
family bathrooms in general should be adopted by many more businesses, and government/public buildings should also have them. There's a lot of reasons
for unisex bathrooms with full-sized stalls with locks - Trans is only one of them, but honestly it's a win, win situation overall.
Still on the topic of sexual crime - Trans people are far more likely to be the victim in such crimes - And higher incidents of these crimes occur
when they are, for instance, in a restroom they do not fit in. Want to reduce sex crime in a statistically backed way? Allow people to use the
restroom they identify with so they are not attacked/sexually assaulted due to their appearance ( such as a (male)lady in the males restroom)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Onto the next part of this thread!
Addressing those that are advocating for these discrimination laws.
I mentioned earlier in this thread the ways in which I agreed with those that are against these laws, and would like to talk more about this point.
It's very hard to debate a topic when someone is genuinely in fear of a situation being caused by legislation they do not understand, and have not
experienced for themselves. A lot of people that are against these laws are in genuine fear of a bearded cis-gendered man following their daughter
into a bathroom.
Now, some sensible people will repeat what I said above, that this circumstance is not one that is being advocated for, and is also not the
circumstance that happens according to data. However, other people will emulate myself and use gasoline on this fire, and create a battle out of it.
They will mention "Bathroom police" and ask why another person should be able to define who can and cannot use said restroom. They will "fight" for a
large bearded man to have the right to use the ladies room - And I'm not sure why.
Real facts - something like 96% of sexual crimes are by men - Men have historically dressed like woman, installed cameras, peep-holes, double-mirrors,
etc, any way they can to peep on females - They risk being caught, and even repeat such crimes after being caught. Now, the data shows that crime has
not increased from this legislation being passed, but no one in the history (including when states have passed such laws) of the USA has "fought" for
the right of a large man with a beard to enter the ladies room, nor do I think we ever need to allow such things to happen. It's proven that bad
'mostly' men will do all they can to peep, perv, whatever else . Allowing everyone, everywhere regardless of all evidence, is just plain a bad idea.
You will never win the support of a large amount of Americans if you keep "fighting" for these bearded men. They are already crafty enough in their
perverted ways, let's not even act like we want to make things more simple for them. ( Again, statistics show no raise in crime - But again, no one
ever fought for bearded men before ) --- Keep the argument to the people you truly want to represent - People who identify with and attempt to BE the
Anyways, it's super late, I should go to bed but I would like to hear what others think about this. Whether you're for or against these laws, please
explain why in a reasonable manner - Emotions and opinions definitely matter as we are human, but try using data to back up your stance if you
wouldn't mind, it will paint a much clearer picture. - Thank you for reading - Deadlyhope
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