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Superdelegates Switching To Bernie!?

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posted on May, 22 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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I'm seeing the Obama debacle all over again. "Hope", "Change". People were so enamored with the idea that this man would bring much needed change to the political system that they forwent critical thinking like, "how exactly does he plan to do it?". It's the same with Bernie supporters. "Free college!", "Free healthcare!", "The rich are evil!" (paraphrasing that last one). Ever think that maybe, just maybe you all are so desperate for change that you too are forgoing any critical thought and instead retort this nonsense like it'll make it true?

Please, tell me where the money will come from for any of the proposed absurdities this man has touted so far. The rich? No, they aren't foolish. They'll jump ship causing major damage to our financial system making it even harder to finance these "free" programs. Raise taxes? Sorry, but his campaign is nothing more than Obama 2.0. Empty promises of hope and change.

And before you all lash out, I vote Hillary for Prison. Trump needs to stick to his tower. There are no good choices this time around. (And truthfully, there hasn't been since I've been alive.)

Sincerely, a millennial who is tired of it all.




posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:12 AM
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a reply to: Aegeus

I say let them jump ship & let every bank fail. Close the borders to all imports/exports & let all the immigrants who came here for "a better life" stay or leave. They can help us rebuild & become true Americans or they can bug off & leave us to our own.

Realistically though, until we get rid of the Fed then it doesn't matter how much money is spent on free college for Americans, it's all going to collapse eventually anyways, may as well try to build up a workforce before then. We couldn't survive as a supply/industrial society right now, & it's all gonna come crashing down sooner or later either way.

Sincerely, a millennial who is equally fed up with it all.
edit on 23-5-2016 by SmurfRider because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:29 AM
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With regard to Sanders I agree with your post, Aegeus, where you stated,

...his campaign is nothing more than Obama 2.0. Empty promises of hope and change...

I like what Sanders says, but at the same time it rings hollow to me. If he were to accomplish over 5% of the things he has promised it would be a feat of magic. And the same holds true on the other side of the fence with Trump. And the disappointing thing about it is, between the 2 candidates (Sanders/Trump) is where the majority of the electorate is commited. Disappointing in that the majority of the electorate is so naive and gullible as to fall for this nonsense. People are screaming now that Obama hasn’t lived up to his campaign promises, and he didn’t promise 1/2 as much as these 2 guys. We never learn. It reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode I saw where some guy keeps having the same nightmare over and over and over again, and it never ends well.

I think the general election will be an all-out mudslinging affair, with only occasional discussion of issues and solutions that really count. Trump will be non-stop trash talk, relentlessly assaulting the opponent’s personal character since he has no grasp of the issues that matter. Any research done on the GOP side will be obtained from past and present issues of the National Enquirer, as well as other choice tabloid rags. Trump likely already has his own personal library at home filled to the ceiling with the needed materials. That’s probably OK, though, since we don’t want to hear about the important issues anyway; we just like to complain about them and point our fingers when nothing gets done.

There’s a lot of anger out there right now, but I think a lot of it is misplaced. Obama gets blamed for EVERYTHING, and I disagree with this sentiment. People say, “Washington is broken” and scream about nothing getting done. Well, there’s good reason for that, but it has little to do with Obama. It has everything to do with the “Do Nothing Congress” and the road blocks to progress they (the Republican Party) have setup to sabotage Obama’s service in office. And they (the Republican Party) have been successful in their smear campaign to lay the blame on the other side. They know that We the People are easy marks, and will believe anything we’re told, no matter how outrageous and contrary to common sense. It’s because of all this that I believe Donald Trump is exactly what the GOP asked for. Unfortunately some of that anger has spilled over into the Democratic side and it’s now willing to take desperate/drastic measures, as well.

So now, here we are; madder than Hell at a broken system, whipped into a frenzy with a lynchmob mentality, and eagerly about to make the most irrational decision of our lives. Wow! We’re clearly a danger to ourselves and the world.

Bottom line is, in November when the dust settles, we’ll get exactly what we asked for and exactly what we deserve. Heaven help us.

I hate politics...

edit on 5/23/2016 by netbound because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:36 AM
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It's the same with Bernie supporters. "Free college!", "Free healthcare!", "The rich are evil!" (paraphrasing that last one). Ever think that maybe, just maybe you all are so desperate for change that you too are forgoing any critical thought and instead retort this nonsense like it'll make it true?


Pretty much nailed it.

What truly puzzles me, is that folks think Bernie is the person to actually DO any of this.

He's already ran one socialist entity....the VA. How did THAT turn out? Not so good.
So what idiot thinks he'll do any better on a larger scale?

The guy's been in politics for 40 years. What did he push through? Oh yeah...TWO bills, both that name Post Offices. Not exactly a top performer here folks. (though at least his attendance was better than Obama ever was).

Bernie basically comes out of NOWHERE, with the track record of a slacker, and somehow young voters think this guy would actually amount to anything? His supporters haven't even LOOKED at the details of his plans, to see how it will cost them, even if they are in the poor or middle class bracket. And that's if you use HIS estimates, when other economists state it will cost far more.

Granted, voting for Hillary is basically like voting to have your rights stripped away and clamoring for the NWO to go into effect any day now...but Sanders is likewise NOT the messiah the millennials make him out to be.

Look, Trump likely won't be able to get much through Congress either, but I'll opt for little of his ideas getting through, vs. Hillary's NWO agenda getting fast-tracked....any day of the week.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
He has never declared himself to be a Communist. There is no evidence of same.
Withdraw your canard or give a citation.
Personally, I have always hated monolithic social constructs of every stripe. Bernie has stated that he is for small 'c' capitalism. I believe that is our future which COULD be sustainable.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Gazrok
Your level of inaccuracy is astonishing and should be considered as a posting of 'feelings, faith and beliefs'.
Actual content is minimal in your post.

Bernie has not been an originator of legislation unless you consider the amount of AMENDMENTS that have been successfully ushered through a differently aligned, antagonistic Congress. He never ran the USDVA. Ask his constituents his worth.
He has been efficient and correct on topics I think are important.That list contains, regulations of Banking, Finance, Civil Rights, Gun ownership (I have yet to buy one myself.), taxes, most war activity, veterans, health care, income equality, etc.

So what do you know that I don't?

www.cnn.com...
"Sanders, an agitator who doesn't suffer fools, political opponents or journalists gladly, is testing whether the kind of populist, liberal agenda that gave him 75% approval ratings in his adopted home state can catch fire nationwide."

theweek.com...
"A survey of voters by Morning Consult out Tuesday reveals that the Vermont independent has the highest approval rating of any U.S. senator, snagging the support of 83 percent of his Vermont constituents. Only 13 percent disapprove."



posted on May, 24 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Excellent. I think we do agree.



posted on May, 24 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: largo


He has never declared himself to be a Communist. There is no evidence of same.
Withdraw your canard or give a citation.
Personally, I have always hated monolithic social constructs of every stripe. Bernie has stated that he is for small 'c' capitalism. I believe that is our future which COULD be sustainable.

This is true - but those who keep saying it will never, ever admit it, nor will they ever provide proof - because there is none.
We have a couple of other members who won't accept that either. And they never, ever withdraw the allegation.
It's pathetic, really. People so freaked out about some "Agenda 21" nonsense that they have lost all touch with reality.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: largo
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
He has never declared himself to be a Communist. There is no evidence of same.
Withdraw your canard or give a citation.
Personally, I have always hated monolithic social constructs of every stripe. Bernie has stated that he is for small 'c' capitalism. I believe that is our future which COULD be sustainable.



Bernie is a Social Democrat who is the in the wrong party. The democrats are social authoritarians.
He should be in the Green Party. At least the greens don't have lobbyists as super-delegates rigging their elections.

Why can't Bernie have 1200 lobbyists as super-delegates? Why not 100,000,000 super-delegates?
Why not dogs,ferrets or cats as super-delegates too? What about imaginary super-delegates?



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