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Originally posted by Lucretius
Originally posted by rogue1
The Abrams also clocked several kills over 4 km. I'm sure it was only a question that they were closer when they decided to blow away the tanks.
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The challenger 1 regularly engaged iraqi t-72's at ranges in excess of 5.1km
Originally posted by Harlequin
`rouge 1` - unforunately your wrong - the armour employed on the M1A1/2 is a variant of the british chobham , but with added plates , its not `interwoven` as you put it.
BUT , there is concern over the use of DU in the armour - attempts are being made to try and get chobham 2.
Spacemonkey - APFSDS-T = Tracer or Training round. Not tungsten.
Originally posted by rogue1
Well, it must have only scored 1 hit as 5.1km was the longest kill, therefore every other shot missed, I'd hardly call that superior gunnery
Originally posted by rogue1
I stand corrected, however the DU plates are encased within the steel armour not bolted on as Lucretius said.
I came across another intersting article where it staes that early Abrams used Clobham but this was discarded for the steel encased DU.
It seems that US armour R&D is mostly concentrated in areas such as nanotechnology and ceramics. No doubt there will be some type of breakthrough in the next few years, considering the current climate.
The Army made the decision for a new tank series in 1972 and awarded developmental contracts in 1973. The first prototypes of the M1, known as the XM1, reached the testing stage in 1976, and the tank began to arrive in battalions in February 1980. The M1 enjoyed a low silhouette and a very high speed, thanks to an unfortunately voracious gas turbine engine. Chobham spaced armor (ceramic blocks set in resin between layers of conventional armor) resolved the problem of protection versus mobility. A sophisticated fire control system provided main gun stabilization for shooting on the move and a precise laser range finder, thermal-imaging night sights, and a digital ballistic computer solved the gunnery problem, thus maximizing the utility of the 105-mm. main gun.
Originally posted by spacemunkey
FRITZ quoted.....
Spacemonkey - APFSDS-T = Tracer or Training round. Not tungsten.
Actually its not a training round it is Tungsten. Why would you equip a tank in a warzone with a training round.......???
Originally posted by spacemunkey
FRITZ quoted.....
Spacemonkey - APFSDS-T = Tracer or Training round. Not tungsten.
Actually its not a training round it is Tungsten. Why would you equip a tank in a warzone with a training round.......???
[edit on 24-3-2005 by spacemunkey]
Originally posted by Sepiroth
as far as i'm aware the challenger2 is the best tank availible...that is what was said when it first came into service in 1998.
Originally posted by Sepiroth
as far as i'm aware the challenger2 is the best tank availible...that is what was said when it first came into service in 1998.
Originally posted by wildcat
The US is already replacing the M1A1
Originally posted by wildcat
we have a working prototype already. Its a 2 manned stealth tank which auto loads and you sit in it on the front of the tank, not in the turret.
Originally posted by wildcat
The US is already replacing the M1A1 and we have a working prototype already. Its a 2 manned stealth tank which auto loads and you sit in it on the front of the tank, not in the turret.
Originally posted by st3ve_o
@ wildcat
no offence dude, but if my mate says he's been kidnapped by aliens before..doesn't mean he as
(summary) EVIDENCE,
i have no doubts the US is always looking at ways to improve on its military equipment, but so are other nations.
[edit on 27-10-2006 by st3ve_o]
Originally posted by stumason
Basically, it's a toss up between the Chally 2, the Leopard 2 and the M1A2.
Originally posted by wildcat
The US is already replacing the M1A1 and we have a working prototype already. Its a 2 manned stealth tank which auto loads and you sit in it on the front of the tank, not in the turret.