Originally posted by Kozzy
Originally posted by spacemunkey
has the Leopard 2 had any combat experience?
I believe it was deployed in Eastern Europe somewhere. It may have shot at some guys but nothing on the scale of the Challenger, Abrams, or Merkava.
Leopards were deployed in the Balkan years ago. Currently, the only Leopards deployed abroad are those from the Canadian army, in Afghanistan. The Dutch decided not to deploy any Leopard 2 A6 tanks in Uruzgan.
I've no problems with people being nationalistic, but please be realistic, which particularly applies to our British friends.
Often I see people saying ''Abrams are combat proven''. They surely did experience combat, but what kind of enemy? Old fashioned Iraqi T-72 tanks, not really a worthy enemy, is it?
While the Abrams M1A2 has been the number one MBT for a pretty long time, it's time to accept an other tank has taken over the leading position.
Prime factors supporting my conclusion that Abrams is not the best MBT anymore are:
-Consumption of fuel in contrast to Diesel tanks
-L44 120 Rheinmetall smoothbore
But what MBT is currently the number one?
The Leopard 2 A6.
Technical evaluation scores after 2 months field tests by the Greek army:
Leo2 GR (in field tests the A6 version): 86.72%
M1A2 : 84.55%
Leclerc : 84.11%
Challenger : 83.70%
Russian T-80U: results not disclosed
Ukrainian T-84: results not disclosed
Merkava 3: not given for test
Ariete: not given for test
(Source : Ptisi defense magazine March 2002)
The Challenger doesn't even receive consideration to be entitled as number one MBT of the moment, because it is technically not comparable to the Abrams and Leopard.
The Leopard 2 A6 has upgraded armor (said to be equal to the British Cobham armour) and in contrast to the Abrams, a L55 barrel, a longer range, slightly faster, and far less fuel consuming than the Abrams.Probably also the only MBT capable of driving under water to a depth of 4 meters.
Supporting videos, please watch prior to replying on my statements:
Why the Leopard 2 A6 is superior
Discovery's greatest tank ever
[edit on 28-10-2006 by Mdv2]