University of Alaska Fairbanks Professor Launches New 9/11 Research Project

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I know its hard giving in to understanding persons of the truther movement use deceat and lies to gain fame and pump the movement for their financial benefit. That's the true conspiracy. That people like you doc are being used. Individuals can be more corrupt than governments. Again. If the government reports are false, sue to have them retracted. Get the money from go fund me if you must.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

You know what is real sad. The government and engineering reports done out of earnest to find why the WTC buildings collapsed, the ones truthers call lies, are being used to make buildings safer. I hope that gives perspective how selfish your movement really is. Might think what the product of your cause is compared to those that actually try to understand the real structural failure of the WTC buildings to make engineering better.

Quote "For some, there is no mystery behind the collapse of Building 7. That doesn’t bother me, I respect their opinion as most of us really don’t know what happened that day. It’s just easier to accept what we’ve been told rather than carrying the burden of disbelief."

A sheeple statement if ever there was one! I'd rather carry on seeking the truth than accept a paper fire brought down a steel structure building!

The laws of physics didn't just fail to show up and do their jobs on 9/11.

Entire Buildings have burned for days and not even partially collapsed. Recent cases proof positive!

Failing to force government to shed light on all the facts by the U.S citizens was the first major step in telling your government that it can do what it wants when it wants and will answer to no-one! Welcome to your slow indoctrination to socialist communism. You have yourselves to thank!

originally posted by: acageyoucannotsee
The laws of physics didn't just fail to show up and do their jobs on 9/11.

Very true, but what we actually have are truthers with a very poor understanding of physics, and how things actually work!

Entire Buildings have burned for days and not even partially collapsed.

But every building hit by a high speed heavy jet aircraft has collapsed....

a reply to: acageyoucannotsee

And buildings have instataniously collapsed due to a single flawed component or too much snow on the roof. To get you on the record. It was improbable the buildings fell because jets or debries damaged the structures. Components and protective devices were damaged or failed. The equivalent of 600 tons TNT in jet fuel was ignited. Themal stress increase the stain on weakened steel beams beyond their design limit. What laws of physics was violated? I'm glad your logic alludes me.

Look at this kiddies.

The fact is the government Report of the collapse of WTC 7 was a multi million dollar joke to fool the American people.

This has nothing to do with the Truthers.

The fact is, the government paid NIST to lie in their Report, and to create "pseudo science" to explain what happened to WTC 7.

The fact is "pseudo science" does not stand up to real science.

Another fact is, the 911 official story supporters on here do not know the truth to what happened to WTC 7 because it has been proven years ago that NIST lied in their Report and NIST looked at everything, and avoided looking in to demolition which makes the most sense to Architectures, Engineers, Scholars, and scientist, by just watching the collapse in all the News video and the timing to how fast the structure fell.

So by attacking and ridiculing the truth movement, it does nothing to help support the official claims.

How many official claims have been made by our government about 911?

My "opinion" is WTC 7 was demolished by demolition and the WTC 7 was probably rigged with demolitions months in advance or maybe a year in advance.

I did say my "opinion" I have no evidence, so don't ask.

a reply to: Informer1958

The fact is "pseudo science" does not stand up to real science.

The only pseudo science is on the conspiracy side.
Remember only a handful of experts think 911 was an inside job.

a reply to: Informer1958

Again petition and sue the government to have the reports retracted. If the reports are so erroneous and filled with lies, retraction should be an easy way to become the hero of the truther movement. Start with go fund me and assembly your team. Way waste time here? Get your day in court so all can see the truth.

a reply to: samkent

The only pseudo science is on the conspiracy side.
Remember only a handful of experts think 911 was an inside job.

That is your "opinion" based on no facts.

The fact is, the official story of 911 is the conspiracy theory.

The pseudo science I am referring to is the NIST Report, at lease you admitted that the pseudo science of NIST is of the conspiracy side which is part of the Official narratives of 911. Thank you

a reply to: neutronflux

Again petition and sue the government to have the reports retracted

Sue who? The government?

A corrupt government will never allow a retract to begin with. Specially when all the evidence support a government cover up.

That would be a big waste of money and time. But an outside institution like A&E can bring out the truth one day and if a Peer Report does come out supporting demolition, then We The People can hold the Bush administration accountable of murder.

There is no Statue of limitation on murder.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Informer1958

The fact is "pseudo science" does not stand up to real science.

The only pseudo science is on the conspiracy side.
Remember only a handful of experts think 911 was an inside job.

They ALL think it was an inside job, even you do.

We can feel it through your keyboard, it is time to move on to the dark side, we know you can do it!

originally posted by: Doctor Smith

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Doctor Smith

And for the thousand time, lots of building with no inital damage or fires have panckaed during earthquakes. Here some examples of spontaneous building collapses. Yes there are examples of pancaking with no external forces.

www.bestonlineengineeringdegree.com...

And for the millionth time. The only examples of global collapse in your link was buildings 1 and 2 twin towers. Don't bother me again until you figure out what a global collapse of a steel frame sky scraper is. You might be able to get away with this BS with somebody else but don't try it on me.

And find us some video of a building disappearing into a cloud of dust that does not even penetrate one floor below ground level,

And that smolders while being underwater for 9 months.

a reply to: ParasuvO

They ALL think it was an inside job, even you do.

We can feel it through your keyboard, it is time to move on to the dark side, we know you can do it!

The fact is, it was an inside job and here is the evidence to support it.

For over an hour, those alleged 4 planes flew off their given flight course, yet on that day for the first time in American History, not a single military aircraft was dispatch until all 4 planes reach their planed targets.

The government gave the American people nothing but "excuses" to why NORAD did not react and followed "proper protocol".

No one was held accountable for not doing their jobs that day, not a single person. This alone reeks of an inside job of a silent stand down order.

Those planes were allowed to reach their targets by the American Powers That Be.

Today, most Americans have a hard time believing anything our government say to us, why? Because they have a bad history of lying to us.

So what do you have to support the official narratives? Nothing.

a reply to: Informer1958

Like truthers are the pinicle of truth. Thernite used; lie. Two of the major compenates of thermite usage not found. The towers fell into their own food print; lie. The debri was well outside the foot print of the buildings. The government didn't care about innocent life but want to destroy the buildings with minimal damage? Inconsistent logic. Would they not want to make it look like an uncontrolled demo with Max damage. The towers fell at free fall speed; lie. Video clearly shows large four and five story sections of the towers falling to the ground while the rest of the toweters were collapsing.

The inconstant theories. The government knew, but real planes used. Holograms of jets used. Missiles. Lasers. No it's was thermite. No it was plastic explosives.

You guys cannot not decide what is the truth and use deceat. Truthers are not to be trusted.

Again, if the engineering society reports are fabricatons, sue to have them retracted. Can you spend too much time and money on the truth?

Towers fell slower than free fall speed.
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At the very least I would think truthers could sue popular mechanics mag for slander for all the anti-thuther articles. I think you truthers deserve your day in court for vindication? For the thuth!

a reply to: neutronflux

You guys cannot not decide what is the truth and use deceat. Truthers are not to be trusted.

I will agree the truth movement was a divide and concord plan from the beginning and no one will ever be on the same page.

However to make the claim that all Truthers are not to be trusted is nonsense in my "opinion".

I do not support the official narratives of 911, because the fact is it was never investigated. If anything, 911 is well known as a government cover up.

I will agree there are many conspiracy theories about 911 and many have been debunk. However you are overlooking the biggest conspiracy theory of all about 911, and that is the official narratives of 911.

Perhaps what you are trying to say is all conspiracy theorist are not to be trusted because they cannot agree on anything.

I can agree with some of that. However, when the truth has not been told, it opens the door to all kinds of conspiracy theories wouldn't you agree?

a reply to: Informer1958

Sorry, but I think truthers are like those that believe in biggoot, cryptology, or Ufology. Some really mean well, but others don't. In these different movements, their zealousness throws caution to the side. Self promoters use the faithful. There is no formal system of checks and balances, scientific method, peer review, and they claim third party review are also conspirators. No effort to police themselves to ensure their movements integrity. Seems more like a loose group of individuals that tolerate each other while finding ways to promote themselves. The problem, if one member of the movement is lieing and tolerated, then the integrity of the movement is hurt. Then there are formal ways to retract erroneous reports, third party reviews and aberrations, and slanderous articles. Yet, truthers never pursue formal recourse. Always content to stay in the shadows and play the victiums. Seems they enjoy the intetnets limited fame while they shune pursuing any true academic validation. Think if you could prove one of the biggest conspiracies every. Seems easy if all the technical data in the offical reports are errounous and lies. If the reports were based on bad physics. Like if Einstein's work was lies and a conspiracy? 911 is one of the most documented tragedies in human history? Again, got to wonder where are the true lies and conspirators of self-interest. Just makes me very sad.

My problem with truthers is not their claims the government lies. Its their inability to root out lies, deceat, and police their own movement. If they can't mind their own house why should they get to mind other homes?