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Utah Lawmaker Says Internet Porn Violates First Amendment

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posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:37 AM
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It seems like there a good number of State governments who spend far too much time and money on the private lives of other people, or what their sexual orientation is. We see it in South Carolina, we saw it in Indiana and now Utah. The list goes on:


The Utah lawmaker who introduced a state resolution declaring pornography a "public health crisis" has taken his opposition a step further. During a conservative talk radio appearance on Friday, state Rep. Todd Weiler (R) said that the internet, essentially, violates a person's First Amendment rights by "delivering pornography" to people who don't want to view it.

lockerdome.com...

Oh there's an explanation:

At first, Weiler specifically blamed McDonald’s for having free WiFi that did not block porn sites. According to Weiler, kids often go to McDonald’s or public libraries to watch porn on their WiFi networks — especially if it’s blocked on their home internet.


I can't for the life of me understand how people like this are voted in. Our rights are being slowly eroded, and it's because of people like this.




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

So we must abridge the 1st Amendment because this snowflake is offended?

hahahahahahahahahaha

Porn.

hahahahahahahahahaha



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Wait, he thinks the internet just sends people porn?

I have never seen porn on the internet unless I looked for it.

And how exactly does it violate the first amendment?

That is like sjws saying you disagreeing with them violates their rights...

This world has gone mad



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:50 AM
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I think we should mandate McDonalds to provide "private viewing booths" for these young minds to be able to privately learn about the human body and how things work.

Isn't that the right direction for this, based on how things have been progressing?



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:50 AM
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The First Amendment gives me the right to say that this guy is a #ing idiot. I'll watch some porn tonight in honor of his stupidity.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
The First Amendment gives me the right to say that this guy is a #ing idiot. I'll watch some porn tonight in honor of his stupidity.


Lol



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Sargeras


This world has gone mad


In the World's defense, this has been happening slowly for a while now. It's just starting to come to a head.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

And here we go with the real mission they are trying in Utah, it's another fundie power grab, the Tea Baggers pushed through the statement about it being a Health Hazard as the first step to achieving their real aims.

Watch what happens next. They'll have their Tea Bagger campaigners, feminist and "family groups" campaigning for "censorship" and they'll use the fact that it's been deemed a "Health Hazard" to justify their control.

I give it another couple of weeks before they start drafting bills to inflict full on their censorship of the Internet in Utah, although how they think they'll actually achieve something like that is anyone's guess.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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violates a person's First Amendment rights by "delivering pornography" to people who don't want to view it.


I'd have answered sooner, but I had to get out of the handcuffs and eye opener thingys they were using to make me watch porn, cause ya know, they kick down your door and strap you to a chair


Where do they get these people?! Really? He thinks people are forced to watch it.
Oh. Wait. Utah. $100 says he's a Mormon or pandering to them.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I'll watch some porn tonight in honor of his stupidity.


Lightweight.

I have two other tabs open right now.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Sargeras
Wait, he thinks the internet just sends people porn?

I have never seen porn on the internet unless I looked for it.


In Soviet Russia, porn comes looking for you.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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Oh no doesn't he realize that if we ban or do away with porn the whole infrastructure of the military would collapse. Think about it without porn young men on deployment in combat theater's will become enraged and start committing heinous war crimes. Porn is patriotic dammit, it keeps our service members happy whilst they are deployed in foreign lands to facilitate us stealing resources from those places, chaos and madness would ensue if we banished porn.




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013

You also just described how the leftist authoritarians want to restrict the 2nd Amendment.




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Sargeras

Right? This is idiocy. There is plenty of porn on the net, but you have to actually look for it to find it. Duh.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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I still can't understand how it's a health hazard, but, I haven't run into porn on the internet since the early 90's maybe earlier.




Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


don't really see how it violates the amendment either, really. seems like he is trying to violate it by trying to get it off the internet?? oh, ya, now I see it.... it's something the religious right doesn't like and we're violating their right to force everyone to live by their religious laws!! got it!

train your kids right and they won't lurk in the mc donalds looking at porn sites. or well, have faith that god will cure any disease that looking at the crap might cause in your kids?



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

If by public health crisis he means loaded with computer viruses he has a point.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

When I first read this, I thought, his speaking is a violation of my first amendment rights not to have to listen to his BS.

In answer to the OP’s question, the reason why people like that get voted in, is cause fear is a useful tool, and not just for terrorists. Politicians use fear to get support for various legislature and he is trying to use the same arguments that have been used time and time again. One should ask him if he considered something more original than his arguments.

The arguments are pretty straight forward, children, moral decency, social decay, a health issue and a fear that by allowing for something to continue on, will lead to harm than good. If you look at the arguments that were used by those who wanted prohibition. But he like all others who want to do such, fail to realize you can not regulate human behavior. Humans are funny that way, they have ideas on what and how.

And what is going to happen is that if this bill passes and gets signed into law, it probably will be overturned in the courts as now he is infringing on another persons right to view such if they wish. And it will lose in the courts, and cost the tax payers of the state hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars to defend a law that was going to fail in the first place.

The lawmakers, and it seems like the GOP in particular are trying to grasp at straws to pass anything to show that they are doing something to be able to stay in their jobs. Attacking one or another group is proving to fail every time, and now they are wanting to try to mold and shape peoples views.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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It's amazing that our culture (and all of you) are defending your perversion so intensely. There are far more important things to defend than the right to watch women and men live out your fantasies on film. I hope this view of pornography is adopted nationwide. If you view pornography, you should consider giving it up. It is not healthy for your mind, and it is not a healthy view of relationships. People can sense how you view them.
If I had a choice in the matter, pornography would not be available. Not just because I don't want it available in mcdonalds where children can watch it- which is a serious problem- but because I don't want it available to anyone. I don't want men and women shaping their minds with it.
Sadly, it will always have a home because of our cultures desire to give it one.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: apydomis

how is it a violation of his first amendment rights for it to be online though??

give an honest attempt at explaining it to me!



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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It's amazing that our culture (and all of you) are defending your perversion so intensely. There are far more important things to defend than the right to watch women and men live out your fantasies on film. I hope this view of pornography is adopted nationwide. If you view pornography, you should consider giving it up. It is not healthy for your mind, and it is not a healthy view of relationships. People can sense how you view them.
If I had a choice in the matter, pornography would not be available. Not just because I don't want it available in mcdonalds where children can watch it- which is a serious problem- but because I don't want it available to anyone. I don't want men and women shaping their minds with it.
Sadly, it will always have a home because of our cultures desire to give it one.


People have been having sex since the beginning.

People have been watching people have sex since the beginning.

Grow up.
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