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Utah Lawmaker Says Internet Porn Violates First Amendment

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posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: apydomis
It's amazing that our culture (and all of you) are defending your perversion so intensely. There are far more important things to defend than the right to watch women and men live out your fantasies on film. I hope this view of pornography is adopted nationwide. If you view pornography, you should consider giving it up. It is not healthy for your mind, and it is not a healthy view of relationships. People can sense how you view them.
If I had a choice in the matter, pornography would not be available. Not just because I don't want it available in mcdonalds where children can watch it- which is a serious problem- but because I don't want it available to anyone. I don't want men and women shaping their minds with it.
Sadly, it will always have a home because of our cultures desire to give it one.


So, you being superior to all others, have deemed porn to be unhealthy, therefore it should be banned?


Bwahahaha!!

Good luck scooter!




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:35 AM
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I would support a law or resolution that would force the adult industry to separate from the regular internet and be mandate to utilize a .xxx domain or such and require age authentication just to access any domain ending in .xxx .

Why would anyone be against making sure only adults can access pornographic content on the internet?? Unless they were some kind of pedo.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: apydomis

Here's a newsflash for you:

You are not in charge of the world. You don't get to pick and choose what the world does with information. You do not get to pick and choose your own facts. I don't care what you believe. You are not a moral authority to anything. If you are not spending your time fighting the real battle -- against all violence, all war -- than you are the enemy of life, and the herald of death.

I don't care what you watch or consume on the internet. Your porn, football and realpolitik mean nothing to me. "By their fruit we shall know them," and if you are anti-life and pro-death, your tree is rotten to the core.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: apydomis
It's amazing that our culture (and all of you) are defending your perversion so intensely. There are far more important things to defend than the right to watch women and men live out your fantasies on film. I hope this view of pornography is adopted nationwide. If you view pornography, you should consider giving it up. It is not healthy for your mind, and it is not a healthy view of relationships. People can sense how you view them.
If I had a choice in the matter, pornography would not be available. Not just because I don't want it available in mcdonalds where children can watch it- which is a serious problem- but because I don't want it available to anyone. I don't want men and women shaping their minds with it.
Sadly, it will always have a home because of our cultures desire to give it one.


You have absolutely no proof of anything that you say. You will find that most do not share your view. See my thread about the resolution.

I am not surprised, that a conservative, yet again, turns something protected by the constitution into something that he deems in violation of the constitution because he finds it immoral. Well, publicly he finds it immoral, it is usually the ones complaining that are the largest consumers of it...much like the state of Utah, which spends more money per capita on internet pornography than any other state.
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posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:46 AM
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Smoking hot mormon love...




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: AmericanRealist
I would support a law or resolution that would force the adult industry to separate from the regular internet and be mandate to utilize a .xxx domain or such and require age authentication just to access any domain ending in .xxx .

Why would anyone be against making sure only adults can access pornographic content on the internet?? Unless they were some kind of pedo.


Lol, it is just sex you prude.

I think we all saw hustler etc Mags as kids.

Did the world end?



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: apydomis




If you view pornography, you should consider giving it up. It is not healthy for your mind, and it is not a healthy view of relationships.


If your watching porn for relationship advice,you're a moron...



If I had a choice in the matter, pornography would not be available. Not just because I don't want it available in mcdonalds where children can watch it- which is a serious problem- but because I don't want it available to anyone. I don't want men and women shaping their minds with it.


Thank Cthulhu your opinion doesn't have merit in society... If it did we'd have a bunch of sexually repressed people running around. You don't like seeing what porn does to the minds of some people,than you won't want to see what the lack of sexual expression does to the psyche of some individuals. Hint,Catholic priests...

edit on 4am30America/Chicago3010America/Chicagoam459 by NateTheAnimator because: Edit; actually I think there is porn designed for couples to spice up their love life.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: apydomis

It is thinking like this that gets books banned.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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You know, it's fascinating that the same people who blabber on and on about women's rights, the evil patriarchy, and "it's for the children!" will religiously defend pornography--an industry driven by people who, by-and-large, are caught in the cycle of sexual abuse themselves. The industry takes advantage of this and you, as a pornography consumer, are contributing to the perpetuation of this cycle.

See? There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of pornography. This convoluted appeal to the 1st isn't one of them though. Guy should focus on the real issues.




posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Sargeras

if you are an adult, viewing sexual conduct for entertainment, or for that matter engaging in it will never be a difficult thing. Sexual activity is not something to be taken lightly, because it can lead to the creation of life. Of course if one are an America hating Communist, just murdering unborn babies is the easy solution, that should not only be encouraged, but honored with parades, rewarded, and laughed about as the empowering thing to do.

Exposure to adult entertainment to children leads to hyper sexualization. So the pimply teenagers will either start getting young girls pregnant with children, plot to and possibly commit rapes. Or, they will be upset that it is not as easy to get laid as is shown in the videos and then just claim to be the opposite gender so the pervert brigade can swoop in and groom the child to be a mentally unstable sexually promiscuous drug user that commits suicide because "people are mean" .

Any decent, porn loving honorable man would support keeping adult entertainment separated and in another domain that would require authentication just for the domain to load.

Will some kids find away around it? Sure, some always do. But at least it would keep any ten year old with a smart phone from simply typing "free porn" and boom, gangbang city in little man's screen. A ten year old should not be watching 5 men unload on a lady in any environment.

It may turn him gay.

There we go, I think I managed to hit every nerve I could in my rant. Now engulf me in a rain of fire.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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I can only imagine what his browser history looks like..that sure is a lot of research he is doing on taxpayers expense.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: AmericanRealist
So the pimply teenagers will either start getting young girls pregnant with children, plot to and possibly commit rapes. Or, they will be upset that it is not as easy to get laid as is shown in the videos and then just claim to be the opposite gender so the pervert brigade can swoop in and groom the child to be a mentally unstable sexually promiscuous drug user that commits suicide because "people are mean" .


...citation needed.

In the meantime:
PsychologyToday

Since the arrival of Internet porn:

* Sexual irresponsibility has declined. Standard measures include rates of abortion and sexually transmitted infections. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), since 1990, the nation's abortion rate has fallen 41 percent. The syphilis rate has plummeted 74 percent. And the gonorrhea rate has plunged 57 percent.

* Teen sex has declined. The CDC says that since 1991, the proportion of teens who have had intercourse has decreased 7 percent. Teen condom use has increased 16 percent. And the teen birth rate has fallen 33 percent.

* Divorce has declined. Since 1990, the divorce rate has decreased 23 percent.

* Rape has declined. According to the Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey, since 1995, the sexual assault rate has fallen 44 percent.


And then:
NIH Paper

The results showed that in none of the countries did rape increase more than nonsexual violent crimes. This finding in itself would seem sufficient to discard the hypothesis that pornography causes rape.


Basically, you are parroting a old world opinion that has been shown wrong through numerous research and statistical uncoverings.

aka, you are making crap up.

Buy your dumpling net nanny, and talk to them about the birds and the bees and why porn isn't representative of healthy views on relationships once you suspect exposure has begun (or is about to begin). Dont demand the entire population be inconvenienced because of your unfounded claims and worries.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther
You know, it's fascinating that the same people who blabber on and on about women's rights, the evil patriarchy, and "it's for the children!" will religiously defend pornography--an industry driven by people who, by-and-large, are caught in the cycle of sexual abuse themselves. The industry takes advantage of this and you, as a pornography consumer, are contributing to the perpetuation of this cycle.

See? There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of pornography. This convoluted appeal to the 1st isn't one of them though. Guy should focus on the real issues.


Citation needed.
In the meantime:





Not to worry, at least there are some reasonable anti-sjw3W rad-feminists out there


Guess the reality of the situation blew your argument away
See, here is the thing, the people you describe are basically misandrists..and men getting enjoyment from skin flicks annoy them to no end. so no..the radfems you discuss arent pro porn at all...they are right beside you also cheering for people to stop accepting their biological interests.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

I have no idea who any of those people are. I'm talking about a certain breed of ATS member, which will remain personally unspecified per "the rules".

It's the same crowd that incessantly s#s on religion... unless it's Islam, in which case they're tripping over themselves to defend it. Cuz, you know, "persecuted minority" and all.

The hypocrisy here is somewhat similar.

Nothing to say about pornography "talent" and the cycle of abuse?



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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Taking bets as to when this paragon of purity, innocence, truth and justice...(heh I can't say it with a straight face) will have his scandal. I'm betting he's into the really kinky stuff. He likely is wanting this because his spouse caught him one night.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
The First Amendment gives me the right to say that this guy is a #ing idiot. I'll watch some porn tonight in honor of his stupidity.


But the real question here, is why wait for tonight lol.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: RainbowPhoenix You aint right, but you aint wrong either lol



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

Hmm, well facts are facts I guess. Crow tastes horrible. In any case, you as a grown adult would not be so inconvenienced by simply typing .xxx instead of .com . I love porn too, but I am not going to claim the end of the world because it should be on a whole other domain inaccessible to the majority of minors. In fact the only one that would be inconvenienced by such a move is minors trying to view adult content.

I dont support banning it like this crazy Utah legislator, but the responsible thing to do for society is to cast it back into the dark corners and back alleys of the net that only adults with authentication can reach. An adult who cannot make that compromise is just immature.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: apydomis I feel sorry for whoever you're in a relationship with. If its one thing I cant stand it is a boring sex life.



posted on Apr, 23 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: AmericanRealist Do you think a child will suddenly develop the inability to click "Yes, i'm 18" if the site requires it? There is no way to keep a curious kid from seeing porn unless you issue everyone in the US a CAC (common access card) so they can log into a terminal.


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