3 Arrested, 4 Officers Injured During Clash Outside Trump Rally

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: raymundoko

Anyone who is stupid enough to start kicking a cop does not represent anybody except for themselves. Just like the old white guy who punched the black guy at the Trump rally does not represent Trump supporters.

I agree with your first point, however Trump himself has stood on a podium and expressed support for violence against others.
Unfortunately, you cannot claim that Trump supporters do not accept violence against others when the very man they are cheering on has expressed that same view. They know the cretin they are supporting, they know what he has said, they know that he has expressed support for physical violence against people, so they cannot and should not be given a free pass.

If you support a man who preaches hatred, intolerance and encourages violence, you deserve to be called out for that.

Anybody want a good laugh? On last night's news the Mayor of Pittsburgh was whining about how much the Police covering Trump's rally cost the City. In the mean time the "$15 per Hour Minimum Wage" group was blocking traffic in the Oakland section of the City. There was nothing said about how much they were costing the City for the Police that were there. Nothing was said when Bernie and the Hildabeast were in town a little while ago.

originally posted by: Konduit

Have to admit, that's pretty funny. Not to mention quite true. It's a very strange world we live in.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Can you provide a video of him supporting violence?

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: raymundoko

Rest assured, they'll find a way to blame this on Trump, they always do. If his people are violent, even if defending themselves, it his fault. If anti-Trump people show up to cause trouble, it's Trump's fault. It's a never ending circle of retardation from the anti-Trump crowd.

Your post made me smile.

a reply to: onequestion

Especially since Rocker did exactly that just a few posts up.

If people put trump bumper stickers over their friends Sanders bumper stickers. Then sanders' supporters would be amazed how 'tolerant' their fellow feel the Bern supports are.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

So then the USA was founded by anarchists was it not? Apparently you can't protest without being an anarchist.

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Rocker2013

Can you provide a video of him supporting violence?

www.nytimes.com...

Numerous times he has promoted his supporters to use violence on protestors. There's ample video evidence. Then when called on it he said it was a joke. Fact is this guy is not presidential material. He reminds me more of Kim Jong Un than any truly great leader of the world.

I have never before heard of a political situation, where people with masks or not, actually attacking police and drawing first blood so to speak. It is a felony to assault, even lightly, a cop on duty in uniform. Pepper spray on a cop is a felony. Who would invite 5 years in prison like that? (potentially a 5 year prison sentence) (I think)..

Okay here's a possible answer:

Obama hates Trump, as he hates the republican party. (Not sure why, cuz half of them are in his back pocket through graft or some other method). Have to keep up appearances though.

Obama has CIA and NSA connections as resources.

The CIA and NSA operate off the map and off the books of the rule of law whenever they can get away with it, and boy do they know to get away with it.

Obama has them get operatives to do these political operations for obvious reasons, and these operatives can be gotten out of jail and given nice payment money for these services under the guise of national security.
So they go in and do this stuff to defame the Trump campaign and people see them arrested thinking that is the end of that story.

But is it?
Obama has a proven track record of these kinds of stunts (Fast and Furious) to name just one.

How many guys in a big city can the NSA recruit to do this "Exciting and well paying work in the interests of national security" with the understanding they will be released from jail shortly, with a nice paycheck?

Don't be naive and think this kind of crap isn't happening. IT IS. Big time.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I have never before heard of a political situation, where people with masks or not, actually attacking police and drawing first blood so to speak. It is a felony to assault, even lightly, a cop on duty in uniform. Pepper spray on a cop is a felony. Who would invite 5 years in prison like that? (potentially a 5 year prison sentence) (I think)..

Okay here's a possible answer:

Obama hates Trump, as he hates the republican party. (Not sure why, cuz half of them are in his back pocket through graft or some other method). Have to keep up appearances though.

Obama has CIA and NSA connections as resources.

The CIA and NSA operate off the map and off the books of the rule of law whenever they can get away with it, and boy do they know to get away with it.

Obama has them get operatives to do these political operations for obvious reasons, and these operatives can be gotten out of jail and given nice payment money for these services under the guise of national security.
So they go in and do this stuff to defame the Trump campaign and people see them arrested thinking that is the end of that story.

But is it?
Obama has a proven track record of these kinds of stunts (Fast and Furious) to name just one.

How many guys in a big city can the NSA recruit to do this "Exciting and well paying work in the interests of national security" with the understanding they will be released from jail shortly, with a nice paycheck?

Don't be naive and think this kind of crap isn't happening. IT IS. Big time.

Seriously, you are deranged enough to try to blame this on Obama, holy #ing #.

The left and the right are both pissed off, Trump and Sanders are proof of that. The 15% at either end of the political spectrum seem to think that compromise is a four letter word. It is time to get these nutters out of congress, right or left, and let the political process work in the USA. Evangelicals are first in line to get punched in the throat.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I have never before heard of a political situation, where people with masks or not, actually attacking police and drawing first blood so to speak. It is a felony to assault, even lightly, a cop on duty in uniform. Pepper spray on a cop is a felony. Who would invite 5 years in prison like that? (potentially a 5 year prison sentence) (I think)..

Okay here's a possible answer:

Obama hates Trump, as he hates the republican party. (Not sure why, cuz half of them are in his back pocket through graft or some other method). Have to keep up appearances though.

Obama has CIA and NSA connections as resources.

The CIA and NSA operate off the map and off the books of the rule of law whenever they can get away with it, and boy do they know to get away with it.

Obama has them get operatives to do these political operations for obvious reasons, and these operatives can be gotten out of jail and given nice payment money for these services under the guise of national security.
So they go in and do this stuff to defame the Trump campaign and people see them arrested thinking that is the end of that story.

But is it?
Obama has a proven track record of these kinds of stunts (Fast and Furious) to name just one.

How many guys in a big city can the NSA recruit to do this "Exciting and well paying work in the interests of national security" with the understanding they will be released from jail shortly, with a nice paycheck?

Don't be naive and think this kind of crap isn't happening. IT IS. Big time.

Where is this proven track record you speak of? I've never read evidence of Obama doing these things.

a reply to: Joecanada11

LOL Of course YOU havent..

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: Joecanada11

LOL Of course YOU havent..

The burden of proof is on you my friend.

I don't have time to find the links, but wasn't fast and furious started under Bush 43?

ETA: Obamaphones were started under Clinton I think, don't want to waste time on debunking something long since debunked.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Personally I have no allegiance to Obama so if what you say is true I would love to see the evidence. It would be truly horrendous if he were doing such things. But without evidence its nothing more than a folktale.

a reply to: Joecanada11

There is not ample video evidence and the video you linked to a far left site doesn't support your case...

I see him saying he will defend people in court who potentially get sued for removing disruptive and or violent protesters. I have no problem with that whatsoever. You do know it is perfectly legal to forcibly remove protesters from a private event right? Obama, Hilary, Bush, Clinton, McCain etc. All of them have had protesters forcibly removed from their events.

a reply to: raymundoko

He said "I'd like to punch him in the face" regarding one of his protesters.

He also said if he went out into the middle of the street and shot at people it wouldn't affect his popularity.

He has supported torture and taking out entire families in regards to terrorists.

He said he wouldn't take the use of nuclear weapons off the table.

He also has a shady history. Has claimed bankruptcy multiple times on his business.

But he has a reality tv show so he must make a good president.

He also said "I love the poorly educated!". And they must also love him because they seem to make up his base of support.

a reply to: Joecanada11

None of that supports your case...

He said "I'd like to punch him in the face" regarding one of his protesters.

And? Did he? Did any of his people? Did you see the rest of that? He said "get him out of here, and don't hurt him".

He also said if he went out into the middle of the street and shot at people it wouldn't affect his popularity.

Do you even know the context? It doesn't seem you do as you have used this in an argument that doesn't fit.

He has supported torture and taking out entire families in regards to terrorists.

And? Obama still runs black sites where we torture people. Source Trump just wants to be honest about it.

He said he wouldn't take the use of nuclear weapons off the table.

No president has since they were invented...

He also has a shady history. Has claimed bankruptcy multiple times on his business.

The first sentence is your opinion. The second is just you being ignorant of how business works. Source

While it is accurate that Trump filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times, Fiorina’s statement doesn’t tell the whole story. In context, Fiorina’s phrasing suggests Trump was personally responsible for the failures of these businesses, but in reality, much was out of Trump’s control -- such as a struggling casino industry. But Trump is certainly not blameless.

But he has a reality tv show so he must make a good president.

Dumb statement. Doesn't even belong in a debate.

He also said "I love the poorly educated!". And they must also love him because they seem to make up his base of support.

I am going to wager you don't know the build up to that statement. I'd definitely win the wager.