Are there limits to free will?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99
Apparently - science has determined that we don't have free will.
If you dont find that claim completely hilarious - you don't deserve free will...

Science has found there is no freewill!
Why is it hilarious?

...think about it...

Å99

a reply to: akushla99

Apparently - science has determined that we don't have free will.
If you dont find that claim completely hilarious - you don't deserve free will...and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim...

I see you have edited the post.
I have no reason to argue either however it has been proved by science that there is no freewill - google it.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

Apparently - science has determined that we don't have free will.
If you dont find that claim completely hilarious - you don't deserve free will...and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim...

I see you have edited the post.
I have no reason to argue either however it has been proved by science that there is no freewill - google it.

...then you have no reason to argue anything...uncle google has spoken...and what has been proven has been 'determined' by individuals who did not choose a career where they could not choose an area of study where they could not get to the point of specialisation that could not make such a ridiculous claim...

Å99

a reply to: akushla99

Google will tell you what scientists say about freewill but it is easy to see for yourself.
Clicking the youtube link and listening to what is spoken will happen or it won't.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

Google will tell you what scientists say about freewill but it is easy to see for yourself.
Clicking the youtube link and listening to what is spoken will happen or it won't.

the link
w i l l
not
be clicked...

...read the book, saw the film and got the t-shirt - thanx...

Å99

a reply to: akushla99
Can you know what your next thought will be prior to it happening?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99
Can you know what your next thought will be prior to it happening?

did you think about the words you would use to type the question out?

Å99

a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

The words that arise just arise - there's no one in there doing the words any more than there is anyone doing the clouds.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

...and so are your replies...so there you go...

Å99

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

...and so are your replies...so there you go...

Å99

Yeah - there is no freewill.
But it is worse than that - there is no one 'in there' to have freewill.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

...and so are your replies...so there you go...

Å99

Yeah - there is no freewill.
But it is worse than that - there is no one 'in there' to have freewill.

...and how could you 'know' this, if there is 'no-one' in there?

Å99

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

...and so are your replies...so there you go...

Å99

Yeah - there is no freewill.
But it is worse than that - there is no one 'in there' to have freewill.

...and how could you 'know' this, if there is 'no-one' in there?

Å99

Have you found someone in there?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99

and I honestly have no reason to argue the point with anyone who believes the claim.

You may have no reason to argue but it seems the choice to was out of your hands!

...and so are your replies...so there you go...

Å99

Yeah - there is no freewill.
But it is worse than that - there is no one 'in there' to have freewill.

...and how could you 'know' this, if there is 'no-one' in there?

Å99

Have you found someone in there?

kind of irrelevant really - if you're arguing from a position of no free will, it'd be up to you to tell me why I should believe the idiocy that maintains from a position of non-free-will that there is none - don't you find that a little hilarious?

Å99

a reply to: akushla99
I have no reason to argue it - I have posted a video link - even if it was clicked would not be heard because the mind does not like this.
It is frightening - 'who' would want to find that they don't exist when the fear of not being is so strong?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99
I have no reason to argue it - I have posted a video link - even if it was clicked would not be heard because the mind does not like this.
It is frightening - 'who' would want to find that they don't exist when the fear of not being is so strong?

your non-free will missed that I've 'read the book, seen the film, got the t-shirt'...

tell me why I should be scared of hearing from folk without the free will to determine that I don't have free will...that's comedy gold...

Å99

a reply to: akushla99
Is there not a fear of death?

I don't even want to talk about the holocaust, you have no idea..

We are put into situations in life that we have no control over, however, we always have free will to make the wrong or right decision.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99
Is there not a fear of death?

generally, a lot of people fear lots of things...but that's generally a knowledge issue...

Å99

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99
Is there not a fear of death?

generally, a lot of people fear lots of things...but that's generally a knowledge issue...

Å99

I wonder if the reason they are scared is because the thing they are scared of could be the end of them?
Why be afraid of a rabid dog or a flying on an aeroplane?

Would it be a choice to be afraid of flying or even be afraid of an peach?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: akushla99
Is there not a fear of death?

generally, a lot of people fear lots of things...but that's generally a knowledge issue...

Å99

I wonder if the reason they are scared is because the thing they are scared of could be the end of them?
Why be afraid of a rabid dog or a flying on an aeroplane?

...perhaps...whatever they believe 'the end of them' means...

...some people conquer fear...that fear doesn't come from without...does it?

Å99