Pavlof Volcano in Alaska Erupts With No Seismic Warning- Could Yellowstone Do This?

Can't report an eruption without the Yellowstone scare-rhetoric?

Had nothing to do with Alaska, but just to keep people reminded aye...

Thanks for another report, as always, could do without the doom porn crap

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Perhaps someone rang a bell?

a reply to: TrueAmerican

America will suffer the same fate as Pompeii, coming soon!

With all the technology we have, we still do not know much about it at all. What I am saying is, any volcano can erupt at any time whether or not we have a # ton of information over it. We may predict itll erupt in 5000 years but next thing you know it erupts 2 days later... Its just unpredictable.

There could have been other clues leading up to the eruption that were missed since this volcano is in a remote location and not heavily monitored. Ground swells and outgassing don't necessarily correlate to the seismic activity, but still may increase or change in a way that would show something going on. (Then again volcanoes do have their ups and downs in related activity without ever doing anything major. So it's still quite possible to be caught off-guard.)

Nevermind. Redundant post.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

I distinctly remember that someone posted a thread regarding seismic monitoring networks being patchy the last couple of weeks, in terms of how many units are actually functioning and how many are broken or offline.

The thread made it seem as if you could drop a bassline from the gates of hell on the network, and only a small part of it would register anything at all.

Perhaps that has something to do with the lack of warning in this instance?

Looking over the chart for the area, it was interesting to see the lack of activity right be for it went off. Be for it going off looks like there was a pretty steady micro tremors happening. Looking back I guess a change in the normal around eruptions is well normal. But by time we see the charts and go "hey that's odd" it's already to late.

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

Really? I hope you were trying to be funny. I find it hard to tell on here sometimes. If not - this is a thread on a VOLCANO - not politics. Sigh.

OP, thanks for the update. Not very comforting to know that there may not be any warning for people to bug out. I went to YS last summer- beautiful, but one definitely realizes it is a volcano. And Old Faithful is no longer "faithful". The timing of the steam eruption varies - give or take 20 to 30 minutes. And the geyser varies in intensity from eruption to eruption. So.... Yeah, concerning information that these supervolcanoes may not give any warning.

a reply to: TrueBrit

You talking about this?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If so, obviously it was me.

But to answer your wondering, no, not really- because it is two completely different networks. IU is the one that went down last week, and this thread concerns specifically the AV network (Alaska Volcano).

By the way, Pavlof has quieted down quite a bit, and the AVO reduced the alert level from warning to watch.

Also to the others that keep accusing me of doommongering, I don't see anything wrong with discussing the potential of different volcanoes to go off, given events like this where there is little to no seismic warning. If you don't want to discuss it- simple- stay out of the thread.

In short, no one really knows. Our understanding of so-called supervolcanic eruptions and the processes underlying them (rhetorically and literally) is limited because the only evidence of them we have are from the distant past relative to seismology and volcanism we can directly observe and study today. All we really have our best guesses, and those guesses continue to evolve as data and imaging of the caldera and the larger system mount progressively.

On the one hand, that no one really knows should probably be a bit terrifying of course.

On the other... there's absolutely nothing we can do about it. It could happen tomorrow, or it could happen centuries from now. There might be a warning, there might not. There might be time to conclude, "Yes this is really happening, so we have to evacuate the entire... oh wait. That's logistically impossible and would present an unprecedented migration of human life from one part of a huge country to another, and cause all sorts of other problems in the process. Nevermind." There might not.

It's scary, but not something I can lose sleep over because it's a bit like a killer NEO inbound. (Except we might have a slightly higher chance of being able to foresee and prevent that. Maybe.) It's not something I can do anything about. Unfortunately.

Peace.

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: TrueAmerican

America will suffer the same fate as Pompeii, coming soon!

We all ready are, it's called overwhelming BS from our politicians and media. We are suffocating in endless BS.

At least in Pompeii they died quickly.

Well I really hope Yellowstone doesn't do this. I think this country has enough problems with the current Republican candidates (the Democrats aren't saints either) and the thousand other issues that we're dealing with, that we really do not need a spontaneous natural disaster.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

scary!!