What will it take for you to vote for a libertarian?

What will it take for you to vote for a libertarian?

What will the libertarian party have to do to earn your vote? What does the mainstream parties already offer that make you support them over a libertarian? What policies that libertarians offer that are not offered by the GOP or the democrats?
Do you vote on policy or on who think has the best chance to win?
Do you think libertarians are left or right wing?

Thank you for replying.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Get them in every debate and on every ballot.

Nothing. I already do vote Libertarian.

Except for when Bob Barr was the nominee.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Most of the libertarian politicians are still corrupted as the rest.

Vote for trump

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I'm not really in their demographic, I'm a socialist.

So, to answer your question, I would probably have to drop all of my ideals and beliefs about economics and social justice.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

In reading through the Libertarian Platform, the majority of tenets are right-leaning in content and scope. Many of these beliefs are ones I share, yet not all. I have in the past voted D, R, I and L, and done so only after a personal vetting process. I view voting as a right and a responsibility in that by reviewing bios, voting history of prospective candidate, platform and % of past promises kept, I will make the best decision I'm able.

The one thing that will keep me from voting for a candidate is their stance on personal freedoms, and if they've sponsored or supported legislation to restrict or rescind rights. They are found on both sides of the political spectrum, and I personally view them as traitors to the oath they took.

www.lp.org...

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I vote Libertarian last election. Gary Johnson is running again, I really like him... just not as much as Bernie.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I'd be all for a libertarian if they were bound to get more than a tenth of a percent of the vote..... I'm basically a left leaning libertarian.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I would vote for a Libertarian if they won the primary for either the DNC or the GOP.
Unfortunately, that is how our elections are set up. Ron Paul almost did it and it would have been
the first time voting Republican for me. Same with Green Party or for Socialists. Bernie is not
a Democrat yet I will vote for him. Bernie and Paul have a lot in common in this way.

I just wanted to add that I have to keep hitting "enter" because words aren't wrapping for me when
I am posting. Is this just me?

Absolutely nothing.

We have seen what both right, and left has done to a relative newcomer/outsider (Trump)

That hasn't spent their entire lives in DC screwing over people.

A third party will never allowed to gain power or a modicum of control.

That's why they say democracy is two wolves fighting over the (lambs) deciding who they are going to have for dinner.

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I'm not really in their demographic, I'm a socialist.

So, to answer your question, I would probably have to drop all of my ideals and beliefs about economics and social justice.

People look at me strangely when I espouse my Socialist and Libertarian beliefs. This is because I
believe both can work in tandem. Socialism works well in smaller nations so it would work excellently on a
state level. Libertarianism works well at a national level because it allows Socialism to succeed at a local
level.

I just wanted to give you something to think about as they are not as mutually exclusive as people often think.

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I'm not really in their demographic, I'm a socialist.

So, to answer your question, I would probably have to drop all of my ideals and beliefs about economics and social justice.

What about libertarian socialists like Noam Chomsky?

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
What will it take for you to vote for a libertarian?

What will the libertarian party have to do to earn your vote? What does the mainstream parties already offer that make you support them over a libertarian? What policies that libertarians offer that are not offered by the GOP or the democrats?
Do you vote on policy or on who think has the best chance to win?
Do you think libertarians are left or right wing?

Thank you for replying.

Get them on the ballot in front of me when I cast a vote.

And Ill do whatever i can to help them make it so.

a reply to: links234

I agree for the most part, but I can agree with some libertarian foreign policies. To my understanding, they're against the US being the world's police, want us to stay out of other countries, and want us to stop the endless war cycle. So I'm in complete agreement with them there. However, I still believe in foreign aid programs, so I disagree with them on that.

I also think they could help reduce bureaucratic red tape, eliminate corporate welfare, and reduce the size and scope of the MIC. And the "War on Drugs" could be completely dismantled w/their help, though I'd likely disagree with them after that. After all, I want government programs to focus on drug rehabilitation, treatment, and researching "safe" dosages for recreational usage. I don't think they'd want any government programs at all, even for the reasons I stated.

However, I'm completely against them on many other domestic issues. I want a strong social safety net, strong environmental protections, civil rights laws, and the such. In practice, Libertarians seem like a glorified "survival of the fittest" mindset on those issues. We simply wouldn't agree on those topics because they seem to say "find a way to survive by your own efforts or die".

Either way, I don't think we should completely write them off. Many of our views overlap on these issues & I think we could work together in many ways. Of course, the differences are also vast. (note: I keep saying "we" because I'm also a socialist.)

From past elections.

And Perot, and Nader.

The only thing a third option does is split the vote.

Making it 'easier' for either side to win elections.

History is talking loud , and clear.

The only thing people have to is listen to it.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Not all libertarians are right-wing capitalists.

As long as the safety nets are not implemented by the state or they are optional to be taxed for then they are ok.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

This is pretty much my view as well. There are issues where I can totally agree with libertarians (spying on Americans, civil liberties, etc.) but there are things we disagree on too.

With that, I suppose it would be what issues the candidate was prioritizing in their campaign before I could vote for them.

Why do people think all libertarians are right wing?

en.wikipedia.org...

There are both left and right libertarians.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: enlightenedservant

Not all libertarians are right-wing capitalists.

As long as the safety nets are not implemented by the state or they are optional to be taxed for then they are ok.

Fair enough. I'll take your word for it. Though I won't lie, nearly all Libertarians I've talked to (before this thread) have had the right wing version of it. So my apologies on that. (edit to add: I agree with being able to opt in or out of many programs.)

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: enlightenedservant

This is pretty much my view as well. There are issues where I can totally agree with libertarians (spying on Americans, civil liberties, etc.) but there are things we disagree on too.

With that, I suppose it would be what issues the candidate was prioritizing in their campaign before I could vote for them.

Very true. I don't expect any candidate to be able to accomplish everything they push for (unless they openly push for the status quo). So his/her priorities could definitely determine things.