posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 07:00 PM
a reply to: JackReyes
TextThis scripture is referring to a time-period yet future. When the “sign of the Son of man” appears in heaven will be after the first phase of
the great tribulation, the destruction of Babylon the great. At that time we are told that Jesus descends from heaven and sends his angels “with a
great trumpet sound” to gather together his chosen ones from all the extremities of the heavens. Just as 1 Thessalonians 4 tells us, that Jesus will
descend “with a commanding call…with God’s trumpet” and at that time resurrect those resting in sleep in death, and then after that “we the
living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the]
Not to argue but only to discuss. I realize that you are taught from the JW's perspective and I am not. So that brings a vast difference in
scripture understanding based upon the scriptures used.
Cepher Tasloniqiym Ri'shon - The First Cepher To The Thessalonians
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of YAHUAH, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of YAHUAH shall not prevent them which
1Th 4:16 For the Yah himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the shofar of YAHUAH: and the dead in
MASHIACH shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the YAH in the air: and so shall we ever be
Some sects of Christian Jews do not understand this as in your teaching. The first and foremost is that we believe at death of this body we are
immediately judged and if found sanctified, are immediately given access to the New Jerusalem which is the kingdom of heaven. This New Jerusalem is
the same New Jerusalem that John describe which he saw descending upon the new earth under the new heaven. This kingdom of heaven being that which
all sanctified spirits of human souls are contained and have access to the trees and water of life.
If the spirits of the sanctified souls are embraced in the New Jerusalem then how is it taught that they rise from the earth in the last sounding of
YAHUAH's archangel? The untaught and revealing truth is that all flesh must be tested and tried in the court of YAHUAH. This includes with no
exception those of the mentally challenged, the aborted flesh and those of unaccountability. No exceptions are given by YAHUAH to His apostles and
disciples. Then where are these spirits of those who are unfortunate?
They cannot be in the kingdom of heaven (New Jerusalem) to eat and drink the food and water of life. Our lesson is that they are asleep in the bosom
of the Hamashiach YAHUSHA. These are those who are dead in Christ Jesus and it is these who sleep in the arms of Jesus who shall rise first. Not
those who have been judged at death but only those who have never been judged will rise first into New Jerusalem which is lesson being taught by Paul.
These are they which are asleep as Lazareth was asleep. Lazareth was asleep but not judged for the scriptures say that death is appointed only once
to all flesh.
God Bless You Jack