Ground Around Los Angeles Moving Sideways- from Nov. 2015

a reply to: TrueAmerican

uplift during a landlip :



the above pic if part of the hatfeild landslip - this even actually involved a mine waste tip and the rail on the right is at the true level

be carefull what you ask for

its very simple really - if the slip rides up onto stable geology - the lose slip will bank up under the presure of the slippage above it


PS - i didnt call you an idiot - my scorn was directed at the hyped news reportate cited in your OP

As this video shows, it's clearly a localised landslide..

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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: TrueAmerican

obvious LOCAL landslide is obvious

despite the best efforts to hype this up - its a local event

it looks very similar to the fate of the A625 at mam tor

picture

once the hill starts moving - the read becomes a white elephant - the mam tor rroad was finally abandoned over 30
years ago after repeated and increasingly costly repairs failed .

my opinion would be - find an alternate route

Local landslides would have a chunk of the mountain gouged out and scattered below. Here the road is buckling and twisting. If there were underground flash floods, you would expect to see sinkholes and canyons.

a reply to: stormcell

please watch the vid that chadwickus links in the post above yours

when you look at the big picture - the nature of the slip is obvious

Ok so, this really does appear to be a landslide. Thanks folks, that's why I asked in the OP if anyone knew anything about this. It was twisted and distorted into something else in the source article.

However, I am still interested to know why I can't get anywhere even close to that area with seismometers. And usually I can.

Now usually when a seismic network shuts down stations, they will leave one or two up, so at least the area is covered. In this case though, they've shut down a massive area completely. My spidey senses are tingling less, but they are still tingling.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Aww jeez.

"the ground is moving sideways in slow-motion, rising 15 feet in four hours in some areas"

Yup, the ground sure RISES 15 feet during a landslide (duh, downwards). Happens all the time. In fact, it happens so often I am an idiot for posting this.

Please...I can't tell you how much I appreciate your posts! I don't have all these names memorized yet, but when I see your Avatar in a thread, I know it is worth taking a look at. But if I see that you authored it, I know it's a must read.

and

Edit...plus now I have one more name memorized. And I am selective.

a reply to: TheWhiteKnight

WTF are you talking about?
At no time did any of that make sense.

so just fyi, it just rained in cali again so keep an eye out for more earthquakes and landslides. i want to be the first to know when the ship starts sinking.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: TheWhiteKnight

Seriously... WTF are you talking about? Why in the heck did you just post that in this thread? Did I just draw the loonies out or something?

That post from WhiteKnight looks like a computer generated babble.

Auto-bot?


Be Safe!

a reply to: TrueAmerican

hey - apppologies for my rather sharp replies earlier in thread - i was upto my eyeballs in a job and gave myself a series of 5 min " breaks " on ATS to relieve the tension

i SJOULD have just added it to my subs and posted a more indepth response ` at my lesure ` - but things geological do pique my interest and it was clear to me what the issue was and that the first link you used was over hypeing things

the thread seems to have resolved itself - so hussar

i have stared and flaged everything - so - toodle pip

a reply to: ignorant_ape

No problem man, and I apologize as well to anyone I may have been less than civil to. Thanks for your observations, and everyone else as well. Together we worked it out.

We still have no seismometers covering all of Santa Clarita though. I'll just leave you all with that thought.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: TrueAmerican

This is from 2015....

Uhhh, he said that in the title of the thread.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
SOMETHING is going on here.

Yep, it looks like mass movement. vjr1113 said 'landslide' and I agree.
Those photos in the link, while interesting, are next to useless as they are not consistent, i.e. only the first shows some of the top of the slope, while the other photos don't show this.

Before you get all 'doom porn' take a deep breath and settle. There could be a far more prosaic explanation than your fearful 'California is slipping into the sea'-type response.

Do you know what the local geology is like in that area?

News link, not much use. Typical lightweight pap.

This is much better: an AGU blog

Hint: what happens when you unload the toe of a slope?

It's Engineering Geology 101.

Check out the comments in the second link. There's even a link to a geologic map of the area.

You don't need a magma body.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

This is Close to where the gas leak is.... coincidence maybe?

a reply to: ClownFish

But if you read more of the article, it says no rain has been recorded and the area looks completely dry.
And what I'm seeing isn't mud slide. It's coming from below. (That sounds like a 60's drive in horror movie. "It's coming from below... Sppoooooky!!!)

originally posted by: rollanotherone
a reply to: ClownFish

But if you read more of the article, it says no rain has been recorded and the area looks completely dry.
And what I'm seeing isn't mud slide. It's coming from below. (That sounds like a 60's drive in horror movie. "It's coming from below... Sppoooooky!!!)

I hear you. I'm with the OP. He had posted this at 4:41AM and I looked at the link and came back and expected to see some comments, as I have seen 20 come in at once, while I am trying to type one sentence.

I was mostly trying to be supportive and to say that someone had read his thread. Plus I was getting spooked by some other threads, and was out of town at the time, trying to type quietly with an iPad on my chest, so I wouldn't disturb my husband. I'm still new here. I'm still getting familiar with names. Next time I already know to wait for others to respond to his threads.

Like I said, I'm with the OP. It just didn't come out right.

originally posted by: tinyDAWK
a reply to: TrueAmerican

This is Close to where the gas leak is.... coincidence maybe?

The methane leak? It's actually kind of nowhere near it. The methane leak is in Porter Ranch, which is a solid 60-90 minute drive from Santa Clarita without traffic.

There isn't anything in those pictures that say the ground is moving sideways. It all looks a little bit too tidy.
In fact it looks to me like artwork.

a reply to: PRINCESSBATTRICK

There's a whole lot in those pictures of mass movement that indicate a lateral movement.

Here, educate yourself.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

If the USGS reported no quakes, then what is or who is moving that mountain? unless someone can prove Mohammed didn't do it...