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America's secret, diabolical reason for allowing illegal immigrants

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posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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-I posted something similar in the past, but it was drowned in off topic posts supporting illegal immigrants. That isn't the point of the thread, it was intended to be about a government conspiracy regarding illegals. It seems relevant right now, with Trump showing up, wanting to deport them all. -

Why the U.S. rolls out the red carpet for illegal immigrants has been a mystery for years. It has brought down the economy and our school system. 60% of government subsidized housing is occupied by illegals and their anchor babies, but we practically usher them in. Just recently Obama told U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Agents to release illegal immigrants. Why would he say that?

America acts like we just want to help those in need, once they are here, we just can't turn them away. That makes no sense when we are In horrible debt, spending billions more on this issue... Including freeway expansions to make room for millions more people.

It has always been a mystery to me, why the government taxes us to death, but suddenly when it comes to illegals, they are all about charity and goodwill. I don't buy it. It seems with our government there has to be a greedy, alterior motive. With the amount of destruction it is taking on this country, just getting more democratic votes doesn't seem like a good enough reason.

~PLACE CONSPIRACY HERE~ --------->

Here is one more possibility:
The Microchip identification implant has been on the table for a long time and is an ultimate goal for our government. They have been ready implement it on us for 15 yrs. Needless to say, any mention of it to 90% of our average well informed, intelligent American citizen has been met with the reaction "No way, no one is injecting anything in me". The govt. realizes they will be met with great opposition if they try to force the implant on us, but they can't just let their plan go down the drain; absolute control and domination depend on it.

So... They began ushering in a ton of Guinea pigs from Mexico. The
piggies are the most helpless, desperate members of our society, they will do ANYTHING to stay here and keep getting all their special treatment. They are fooled into believing they are sneaking in, and it is very important for the American citizens to also believe they are sneaking in. In reality, the cage door has been intentionally left open, and they are being lured in, just like the Hansel & Gretel story.

Now in comes outsider Trump, NOT with the agenda at all! Wants to send home all of the illegals we have collected, not to mention the Syrian refugees Obama is adding to the mix. It's scary to think what lengths they will go to to keep Trump from screwing up their plans, but in this "stranger than fiction" reality we live in, nothing would be shocking at this point.



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posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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No grand conspiracy. Democrats see them as a future voter base and Republicans RINOS are just cozying up to their Chamber of Commerce handlers who want cheap labor.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane


I recall a news story-don't ask me why I remembered this-back in the 70's around 76, I believe, that a 'white paper' which was published almost at the same time both in the U.S. and Canada where the solution to the upcoming social security short fall would be addressed by massive immigration numbers that would feed into the depleted reserves and thereby save the system.


Whether or not this received traction is unknown. Also, whether this could be a major factor or perhaps one of many but it is an interesting thought.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

Don't you think that if the American Government was experimenting on illegal immigrants with tracking implants that we would see at least something. If it's such a massive problem, the very concept of tracking chips would be making news now and again and it would be obvious.

Trump is certainly not the "hero the the true American way" either. The Obama administration isn't scared of him, and the government system isn't fearing for their lives that Trump-Jesus is on his way to stop our dastardly plans.

If he was, he would have mentioned that the government is implanting immigrants and he wants them out of the country for their own safety.

It's pretty clear that Trump wants them out of the country, and it certainly isn't because he cares about them.
edit on 10/2/16 by Ghost147 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

NVM


edit on 10-2-2016 by Jonjonj because: neverminded out of the thread



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane


The simple reason of the illegals being welcomed is that the births of children of the existing residents is an unhealthy percentage below the 2+ that would sustain the population. And that ain't no way to grow the economy. Letting those illegals in is the same as having babies in increasing the population. Except they come at a working age or near working age. The immediately are independent consumers of all things.

How many business care one iota about where a buyer of their product comes from? Answer: zero. Business don't suffer from loss of jobs at such times as does a middle and lower class work force, businesses make more money.

As they say, "It's the economy, stupid." (Nothing personal, just a quote.)



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

Don't you think that if the American Government was experimenting on illegal immigrants with tracking implants that we would see at least something. If it's such a massive problem, the very concept of tracking chips would be making news now and again and it would be obvious.

Trump is certainly not the "hero the the true American way" either. The Obama administration isn't scared of him, and the government system isn't fearing for their lives that Trump-Jesus is on his way to stop our dastardly plans.

If he was, he would have mentioned that the government is implanting immigrants and he wants them out of the country for their own safety.

It's pretty clear that Trump wants them out of the country, and it certainly isn't because he cares about them.


No, I don't think they are already doing that. Yes, we would know if they were! Just an idea of something they'd like to implement at the right moment. They may have thought there would be more time, because they are used to controlling everything and everyone in power, but now with the presidency possibly taking an unexpected turn, they could be feeling pretty threatened.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: 222mockingbirdlane


~PLACE CONSPIRACY HERE~ --------->



Cloward–Piven strategy


The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".


Tie in with Cultural Marxism

= ?




posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
No grand conspiracy. Democrats see them as a future voter base and Republicans RINOS are just cozying up to their Chamber of Commerce handlers who want cheap labor.


Yep! This is it!



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

They aren't guinea pigs.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Ghost147

no we wouldn't see anything, thats the point. and the goverment experiments on anyone they can, including its citizens. I believe the term is "Know thy enemy" , and the U.S. Goverment has the resources to do so



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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It's just that microchip identification implant is imminent, it's just a matter of when...and how they could possibly implement something like that wide scale, with mass WILLING participants. It is much more than just a tracking system, and tracking isn't the goal.

It is not being implemented yet (it is, but only on a small, experimental scale with willing participants) when it goes full blown, and the government says the microchip implant will be our only system for ALL buying and selling, it will be no secret. It will be " Do what we say or starve, get the implant and be an American citizen, like you've always wanted, or be detained and deported"

For those who are already citizens? Make them get tired of not being able to buy anything, not having I.D. for the multiple things we need it for, not being able to access their own bank accounts, desperate to the breaking point. Some will give in and get chipped. The others? Become homeless dregs? Or worse, considered law breakers and detained in camps?

Here are some things that will effect the unchipped:


I read something VERY alarming on the Verichip/Digital Angel website. Among their list of all the wonderful ways the implant would improve our lives, was:

Mood enhancement!
They stated they could transmit feelings of happiness and well being via a frequency through the chip.
This was not on some forum, this was on the Digital Angel website, and it was meant to be an awesome thing, not a bad thing. Of course, you wonder what else can be transmitted that they didn't happen to mention.

So, here is one scenario that could effect the non-chipped population:

Not only will they no longer be able to buy, sell, have access to their own cash, receive medical care or use any I.D. at all. If, being a starving, homeless vagabond doesn't suit them and they think "oh well, my friend, uncle, cousin, or Dad got chipped, I'll just get my food and shelter from them" ......
That may not be possible. If chipped people receive the radio frequency memo that unchipped people are lawbreakers and should not be helped, then all of the people you used to know, may suddenly & mysteriously become strangers to you. I think illegals (and other weak members of society) will only be used as a large amount of bodies to get the whole thing started.
Remember, truth is ALWAYS stranger than fiction, and this craziness about mood frequencies was (maybe still is) on their own website.

P.S. If the name of the microchip maker "Digital Angel" sounds creepy, that's because it is. Their logo used to be a squiggly looking angel, that when turned upside down, read "666"
It wasn't as cleverly hidden as they'd hoped it would be, and a lot of people were talking about it. They have since changed the logo, but you can still google the old one.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
No grand conspiracy. Democrats see them as a future voter base and Republicans RINOS are just cozying up to their Chamber of Commerce handlers who want cheap labor.


The RINOS have another thing coming. Just as the immigrants before the newer ones eventually they will have the lifestyle similar to the rest of us requiring more money to live instead of being low wage slaves they think they can bring in for their own agendas.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:39 PM
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Why the U.S. rolls out the red carpet for illegal immigrants has been a mystery for years.


What mystery? Companies in the U.S rely on cheap labor to cut back on expenses to their budget. Many of these companies prey upon illegal immigrants and even go as far as going to cities in Mexico,central and south America advertising for job offers with out a care for legal documentation. Then when they no longer need them they turn them into the INS. It's just economics and politics at play.

When ever I read thread's like this there's a lot of complaining about the issue with a lack of substance to consolidating a solution of some kind. Is your solution that Americans should support Trump or politicians with similar policy proposals as Trump? I can tell you right now people like Trump are about as pro-establishment as they get, all they ask for now is that you give them power directly.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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First you need to get some basic facts straight. The US uses more resources now to keep out illegals than at anytime in our history. In WW2 the Border Patrol was considered massive and it had 1000 agents now we have 28,000. We are deporting more illegals now then we ever have. And the illegals have actually been going the other direction for the last few years with the population in the US shrinking. This of course is only natural when life in Mexico is getting better. Which is the only realistic solution in illegals.

Why is it people pretend that only the US has this problem? China, Russia and most of the modern world has an illegal problem simply because the resources to stop them or remove them simply do not exist. Up until the late 1980s nobody even cared. Then they became a political card. Despite the vital role play in economies all over the world the US included.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

You realize the majority of Americans carry tracking chips in their pockets every day right? They are called cell phones.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: 222mockingbirdlane


~PLACE CONSPIRACY HERE~ --------->



Cloward–Piven strategy


The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".


Tie in with Cultural Marxism

= ?



And in walks Bernie the Socialist perfectly on que.
The sheeple line up to fawn over him.
Almost too easy, look at Al Sharpton groveling at Bernie's feet for a few crumbs already today.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

You realize the majority of Americans carry tracking chips in their pockets every day right? They are called cell phones.


Not to be rude...but the downfall of any topic is when people just blindly post comments, without even reading what they are posting about. I just said in 2 different posts, that the point of microchip identification isn't about tracking, and then wrote a bunch of explanations of what is about.

A phone can be lost, discarded, or broken at any time, etc. It's not a permanent, all inclusive I.D. and tracking device. To get rid of a microchip implant, one would have to remove part of them selves.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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That is a possibility too, I wouldn't shoot it down.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: 222mockingbirdlane

Ok. I don't understand the purpose of forced microchip implantation when Americans are willing to not only carry them without a fuss, but PAY a bunch of money to have the privilege of having and using one. Seems like a pretty good con if you ask me, speaking conspiratorially. But hey, I like your conspiracy from the pre-smart phone era. It's nostalgic.



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