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Take a step outside of yourself for a minute or two with me, if you don't mind. There are religions all over this world that have different explanations for something. That something is God. There is not one religion that has the most objective evidence of said God, because God is not on this physical plane in physical form.
Therefore no one knows for a fact if what they are teaching or believe is even correct or fact. Some believe that they know for a fact. But there is no way for any of them to know. It's not any different than our disagreement here about synchronicity. I am not going to sit here and say that I know for a fact that I am right. Do I believe that I know, sure. But only God actually knows for sure.
Pretend that there is a God, and when you die you go and have a discussion with it. (To me God is a conscious energy, which encompasses male and female in my opinion. Which is why I am saying "it".) But pretend you're looking down at the world, and call something Black like a car on the road or something. If God says in response, in all actuality that color is called white. Are you really going to argue with it?
What if it explains that the color was given it's name when it was created? Or that people on Earth just came up with a different name for it. Just like on all of these other planets, they have completely different names for it as well. Do you see how the only things that are really even possible to know for sure, are what you learn from experience. Like if you touch a stove when it's hot, you'll burn your hand? Other then that we're all just giving different names to the same things, and everyone is under the impression that they know these things and are facts.
The band Rush has lyrics that this reminds me of this. they says "Everyone knows everything, and no one is ever wrong. Until later. Who can you believe? We try to play it safe. But apart from a few good friends, we don't take anything on faith. Until later."
Does it make more sense if I put it together like this?
If you genuinely ask for a sign for verification, with an open mind/heart. You might be surprised? Ask for God to engineer a synchronicity/sign for you to experience that is so unexpected, mind-blowing, personal and relevant, hugely significant and completely inexplicable, as to leave you with no choice but to admit you were wrong.
Kind of an odd way to phrase it, but the simple answer is no. I think I have been pretty clear about that.
I completely disagree with you on this one. If you went to Vegas and tried to place a bet on those two things happening to you in one day. I'm pretty sure you and I both know, the odds of both of those things happening to the same person in the same day would be extremely long. I could retire kind of long. In my opinion, the reason it is that way. Is to get your attention, with asking what are the chances of that happening?
Are you seriously asking me this far into these conversations, if that is what I have been saying this entire time? Seriously? Again, I thought I was pretty clear on this. Yes, I believe that God communicates to us via synchronicities.
What is so shocking about that anyways? God created us all, so why is that so strange that it would have an interest in all of it's creations? Not just me, everyone. If the Bible is correct, which I am not saying that it is. Then God is everywhere, and knows everything. If God is a conscious energy, that is inside of everything that it. It would meet both of those descriptions. So yeah, why not? It's also the bridge between your brain and mine and everyone else. God is pretty awesome, probably more awesome than imaginable, if I am right in my understandings.
Well I can only speak for me. But how yours differ from mine, and some other peoples stories that I have read. Is that I wasn't actively looking for signs, or trying to create them. I wasn't kidding when I said that I completely missed my car turning 111,111, and I was looking forward to it. So obviously I haven't trainned my brain too well, or that wouldn't have happened.
But you picked a number. In my case the number picked me, and according to others it picked them as well. The question here is why 11:11? It could have been any set of numbers. But everyone is seeing the same ones? My guess is that 11:11 represents the beginning of seeing these things.
But from there it progresses to different numbers, then different kinds of signs and synchronicities. Kind of like how you would learn a new language. But the way you are doing it, you are in charge. It's not communication to you, to you it's more of a game. The way others do it, they surrender to it, and let the signs come to them as God intends them. Not trying to manufacture them. This isn't about how can I use this to get personal gains. This is about learning a language, and when trying to learn a new language. It is best to let the teacher teach, and not just go around assigning your own words to things, and expecting to be able to communicate.
Tell God yourself, you have a mouth, right? Making light of kids starving now? How nice. Remember John St Julien? People like him, is how this world changes. Not by sitting here on the internet, mocking people that want to be part of that change. If you're as smart as you seem to think you are. Why don't you understand that a conscious energy doesn't have physical form. The way it get's it's will done, is through us and our actions.
originally posted by: spygeek
I don't see any value in synchronicity beyond a generally curious artifact of early psychology, not because I am biased, anti-spiritual, or closeminded, but because it fails to justify itself on the most basic logical principles.
originally posted by: Visitor2012
a reply to: spygeek
Your experiment sounds intriguing. Although it's difficult for me to imagine how I could personally influence these numbers to come. It's not like you're trying to randomly look at the clock in hopes you will see some consistent number results. Not like that at all, because it reveals itself DESPITE your efforts and intentions. Also, There are weeks when I get rediculous 11:11's, then nothing for a week. I don't see 11:11 on clock, I don't see 11:11 anywhere. Then the faucet turns back on for 3 months straight. If this was about clocked pattern recognitions... Why such a gap?
Say, for example, you decided to give up the experiment, you go outside to go to the store and your odometer read 84.20? If you look right, it'll slap you from the left. You look left, it slaps you on the right. Put the clock away? Bam! 8.42 gallons of gas in the tank the next morning, get back on the street Bam! 8:42am.
At what point would you begin to develop a SERIOUS suspicion to these happenings? And would a lectures about statistical probabilities, and monkey brain pattern recognition satisfy you? Highly doubtful. Anyway, I enjoyed this conversation.
originally posted by: spygeek
So, what did the jinn and fallen angel messengers do before digital clocks and timers were invented? Is this only a recent plot of theirs to drag people away from Christianity?
How is 842 viewed as a geometric form? How is this relevant?
What are these five spiritual elements going to do once they manifest on Earth? Why will they all have scarred thumbs?
Is the sole basis for all of this your own dream fantasy? Is there any real world, objective basis for it at all?
originally posted by: Rapha
The jinn would have used sacred geometry instead.
Example. In numerology there are what are called, Master Numbers. These include 224, 336, 448.
From the numbers you can see they are vertices creating a final shape.
224 = 2 vertical bars. Joining the vertices creates a rectangle.
336 = 2 triangles overlapping to construct a hexagon. As Above so Below symbol.
448 = 2 squares (1 at 0 deg, the other at 45 deg) overlapping creating a octagon.
The police have been under mind control through sacred geometry through the 3rd eye for centuries.
So your 248 is mind control where the jinn want you to be a slave for them.
Ever since Ancient Greek times, sacred geometry has existed. Now new age 11:11 has replaced the old. There is nothing new under the Sun.
I believe when the 5 elements manifest on this planet, they will take control of the world from the current elite. The elite will naturally resist and be destroyed in the process. Its now either comply or die for them.
The scars are a sort of unique identification and cannot be faked.
Hopefully by mid-April what i have speculated will be reality. We will see.
originally posted by: spygeek
What actually makes "sacred geometry" sacred?
How can it be used to control people?
Isn't it just naturally occurring math and geometry that have had some kind of spiritual significance attached to them?
Simple mathematics and geometry is used by Islamic mythological beings to control the minds of police officers through the Hindu head chakra? Is that what you are saying? Just trying to get my head around this..
It's 842, but aside from that, how exactly does my noticing this number through my own conscious will make me a slave to these beings? What actions are they influencing me to carry out for them? To what end is my slavery directed?
Who are the current elite? Is it even possible for a select "elite" to be in control of the world?
What do the elements want our planet for anyway?
What is so important about Earth that makes the "elements" of earth, wind, fire, water and spirit want to take it over?
Aren't earth, wind, fire and water naturally occurring substances on this planet in the first place?
originally posted by: tadaman
also, when was the devil invented?
Do you think you may need to take both pills Morpheus gives just to be sure?
Historical literature would serve you better.
originally posted by: Rapha
just my 2 cents based on a recent dream.