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Belief in anything paranormal canmot be falsified and is therefore 'without valid reasons' and fits with the religious meaning of 'faith'
Sure I'll explain further....leaning to ones own understanding means: thinking that you have arrived at the truth through processes of reasoning and logic and not simply perceiving truth as what it is...for instance..truth is absolute and therefor is not subject to your reasoning or logic because that would mean that it's not absolute and can be bound to a type of thinking.
The one valid reason for acceptance is because the person perceives or recognizes the truth in it (discernment) and therefor their belief derived from seeing the truth and not just a vain belief.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: Prezbo369
You have no valid reason for believing this statement to be true. It is something you simply like the idea of...so you state it as fact.
Are you saying belief in the paranormal/supernatural can be falsified? Can you demonstrate this? are you ready for your Nobel prize?...
If you believe in something based on faith, then you do not care about the truth, you just care about what feels good to you....
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: Prezbo369
That is simply untrue. That video I posted gave a perfect example, and wasn't dishonest at all unless your talking about how Dawkins completely ignored the huge logical inconsistency Lennox showed in his beliefs.
Religious faith is 'given without valid reasons', your every-day faith is synonymous with trust and confidence which are both earned and given for valid reasons.
If you're going to purposely deny that there is a big difference between the everyday usage of the word faith and religious faith, as the commenter in the video you posted did, then you're also being dishonest...
originally posted by: auto3000
a reply to: namelesss
Good point, here's the thing with that...let's discern the difference between living faith and dead faith....
living faith grows because measure can be given to it via a criteria...dead faith has no sound and written criteria and therefor has no way of being given measure.
A dead faith is vain and it exist in a man simply because he has been convinced and have yet to truly perceive the truth.
originally posted by: auto3000
You are speaking of the (imaginary) vanity of 'belief'....This statement along with all the statements that followed it overlooks one fundamental question...."How would a man know that what he believes, is actually true".....
I'll say this objectively...
he can't use logical processes unless the subject matter is centered around factual matters and not truth matters....
but, if he's dealing with truth and not fact...logical processes and reasoning will be of non effect..and that's not an opinionated statement or supposition, that is truth that can be objectively referenced.
originally posted by: auto3000
a reply to: namelesss
I'm listening, but my experience is that there is no such thing as 'dead Faith'!......Notice something in your statement..."my experience is"
...and then you continued to post....This statement says "I'm telling you based upon my feelings"
originally posted by: auto3000
a reply to: namelesss
Correction...experience is just practical contact with and observation of facts.
Knowledge comes out of experience but, that knowledge can be discerned for validity...
and I can't say much about your post any further because you have already bankrupted yourself intellectually on the subject matter when you said "there is no such thing as objectivity" because that would mean that everything that you posted is not actually the case...but I do see where you were going in the conversation