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‘Time of looking away over’: Germany warns Saudi Arabia to stop funding radical Islamists

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posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: amazing

Obama is the leader. He sets the tone of everything else.


I know Wahhabism I grew up in Islam and I know " intellectuals" like Obama who are really no nothing college boys




posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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A bit late since the Trojan horse is already inside the city gates.
You can either wait to be attacked or push the horse back out.
The cries of the rational are coming far too late in this game.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

It's not about Islam nor Obama.
All it is about how's everything is in plain sight, how Saudis are financing terrorism around the globe, and how everything has been put under the rug, till now.
This is the major step that Germany is doing right now, because they know things are getting out of control.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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Yep when you get to point that you are one on the loosers side ..... you have to consider damage -controle hihi a reply to: zilebeliveunknown



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: zilebeliveunknown

We’ll see whether Germany is just talking or not

Whether they’ll stop Saudi financed mosques, I hope they do.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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www.abovetopsecret.com... reply to: markosity1973


Yes good for them, apparently there's about 100 billion reasons to take this subject seriously.



www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: zilebeliveunknown

We’ll see whether Germany is just talking or not

Whether they’ll stop Saudi financed mosques, I hope they do.


I can guarantee you that Germany's intel service has all the evidence, but are keeping their mouth shut over US Gov pressure.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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the main market of Saudi Arabia is Asia, Saudi Arabia would love to become a big supplier in Europe

Minor Merkel Market, then. We cutting up petrodollars?



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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The cries of the rational are coming far too late in this game.


No, the cries of the rational were waved aside as racism and discrimination by far left political correct parties.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
A bit late since the Trojan horse is already inside the city gates.
You can either wait to be attacked or push the horse back out.
The cries of the rational are coming far too late in this game.

But it 'looks good', doesn't it?

Those drowning in the main stream are satiated.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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Turkey, saudi, called out on. It will lead to the u.s and ultimately israel. (or vice versa) I think, once this happens, the elites may just turn on one another.

*takes out popcorn*

Its gonna be a bumpy ride, but interesting times we live in. Real life is waaaay more interesting than a movie. Truth really is stranger than fiction.




posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
A bit late since the Trojan horse is already inside the city gates.
You can either wait to be attacked or push the horse back out.
The cries of the rational are coming far too late in this game.


Yes but this is a real threat to the ISIS cult members.

Germany is threatening to shut off their funding. This is big. Guns,ammo,explosives,foot soldiers etc all cost money.
Its going to be hard getting weapons,people and equipment without money.

This is classic warfare. Cut off the resources and starve them out(not literally starving them starve their funding). Then slowly water them down with pro-moderate/anti-extreme indoctrination(something the CIA is really good at) over 20-30 years.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: markosity1973

Yes RT is State Sponsored Propaganda...That means any story they run might be (A) True, (B) Half True or (C) Total BS..
But EVERY story they run will serve the Russian Governments agenda in some way.

The Saudi's have a lot of responsibility for the state of terrorism today...through ideological support, through funding and through oppression.

Saudi Arabia is predominantly Sunni (85-90% of the population)...When Saddam Hussein was removed from power the Shia's seized government and the Sunni's were (are) treated horribly...Lots of military (and most others) stripped of their pensions and evicted from their homes, imprisoned etc. they are given no voice in government. This gave rise to ISIS...

Sunni's are ISIS ideological lifeblood...Deposed in Iraq...In power in Saudi Arabia..

Some wealthy Sunni's in Saudi Arabia fund ISIS..

Saudi Arabia needs to be straightened out and as silly as it sounds...I still believe if we invested in alternative energy and broke our addiction to oil, we could stop pandering to Saudi Arabia and exit the conflicts they encourage in the middle east.

No more oil...same as it ever was.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: markosity1973

Yes RT is State Sponsored Propaganda...That means any story they run might be (A) True, (B) Half True or (C) Total BS..
But EVERY story they run will serve the Russian Governments agenda in some way.


The same is true of Western MSM media. Every story they run serves a predetermined agenda.

I thow RT into the mix for balance. As Putin himself famously once said


What is a unipolar world? However one might embellish this term, at the end of the day it refers to one type of situation, namely one centre of authority, one centre of force, one centre of decision-making. It is a world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.”


Source

We need to hear all sides of the story from all sources. The people here on ATS for the most part are pretty smart, they will soon shoot down a lie if one is presented. That is what makes this site so great, we can bring a story into the light and discuss it from all angles around the globe and add supporting info / debunk it.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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So, finally someone other than Russia is coming to their senses and realising that some of our 'friends' are stabbing us all in the back.


Remind me why anyone cares what Russia says ?

They are backing, and funding the 12ers in Iran. That's the Shia 'radical' side of Islam.

Don't know where everyone has been.

WIKILEAKS said this YEARS ago.
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posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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Iran is another problem for another day. America and the most powerful western nations back Saudi Arabia as an strong ally. Then we rather unsurprisingly find out it is doing this.

We need to clean our own back yard before we start pummeling Russia. People in glass houses should not throw stones......



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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The announcement the OP is drawing attention to follows a forecast given by the German intelligence service to the German government of a major change in Saudi foreign policy.

www.zeit.de...

BND warnt vor Saudi-Arabien


Saudi-Arabien hat aus Sicht des deutschen Auslandsgeheimdienstes seine bisherige außenpolitische Zurückhaltung aufgegeben und entwickelt sich zur offensiv agierenden Regionalmacht. Entsprechend warnt der Bundesnachrichtendienst vor einer destabilisierenden Rolle des Königreiches in der arabischen Welt. "Die bisherige vorsichtige diplomatische Haltung der älteren Führungsmitglieder der Königsfamilie wird durch eine impulsive Interventionspolitik ersetzt", heißt es in einer internen Analyse des deutschen Auslandsnachrichtendienstes.


Translation:

Saudi Arabia has given up, in the view of the German foreign intelligence service, its existing foreign policy restraint and is developing into an offensive active regional power.The Federal Intelligence Service (BND) warns of a destabilizing role being played by the Kingdom, in the Arab world. "The current cautious diplomatic stance of senior management members of the royal family will be replaced by an impulsive intervention policy", according to an internal analysis of the German foreign intelligence service.

edit on 7-12-2015 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: markosity1973

Yeah, this just wreaks of WW3 brewing.



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: markosity1973

Oooooo! I bet Saudi are soooo scared, not!

It is not the Saudi state doing it. It is private funding from individual Saudis. Multi billionaire is an understatement of how rich these dudes are.

From: www.forbes.com...

"One third of the billionaires in the Middle East are related to each other."

"Saudi Arabia’s $776 billion GDP puts it in the top 10 percentile of world nation’s gross domestic products. It has seven billionaires – fewer than the U.S. state of Georgia – but is home to the richest man in the region : Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud. His net worth of $20.4 billion at the time of publication comes from stakes in News Corp, Citigroup, Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts and other investments controlled through his Kingdom Holdings. (In 2013, Prince Alwaleed sued Forbes for libel in response to an article about him; Forbes has filed a formal response to the complaint.)

Prince Alwaleed’s fellow Saudi national, Mohammed Al Amoudi, made his fortune investing internationally, first in Sweden and then through a diversified portfolio in Ethiopia and Saudi Arabia. He exports coffee beans to Starbucks and tea leaves to Lipton, in addition to owning oil refineries in Morocco and Sweden and oil fields off the coast of West Africa."

From: en.wikipedia.org...

"Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud $26.1 billion Investments
Sheikh Ahmed bin Abdullah Al Juffali $19.8 billion Investments, Diversified
Mohammed Al Amoudi $9 billion Oil
Sulaiman Al Rajhi[3] $8.4 billion Banking
Maan Al-Sanea $8.1 billion Construction, finance
Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber $5.3 billion Real estate, hotels
Saleh Kamel $5 billion Diversified
Saleh Al Rajhi $4.7 billion Banking
Abdullah Al Rajhi $3.2 billion Banking
Sulaiman Algosaibi $3 billion Diversified
Khalid Bin Mahfouz & family[4] $2.8 billion Banking
Mohammed Al Rajhi $1.6 billion Banking"

I can see this list is NOWHERE NEAR complete so Wiki are hiding some of them. Bin Ladens are Saudi billionaires. WTF Wiki, why are they not in this list? There are others, too.

Less billionaires in Saudi Arabia than state of Georgia apparently. Surely it is know who among them are sponsoring terrorism. Take the culprit(s) out of circulation then this extremism's financial head is cut off. Stop the oil being sold on the black market by IS then no more money for IS, job done. Of course, the coalition does not want it quite like this. They want it to drag on for political capital.

Here is a general article on Saudi Arabia: en.wikipedia.org...










In Saudi Arabia the royal family is always plotting against each other. And they use any means possible to interfere with the state including funding threats to Saudi arabia. They are hoping to start a revolution and take over no secret been happening for decades. The only way to stop it is to stop buying Saudi oil and that isn't going to happen



posted on Dec, 7 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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Germany LMAO!! Who do you think controls Turkey??? Germany is the cause of the whole thing, the Arab Spring!!!!

Pot calling the kettle black!




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