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originally posted by: AlphaPred
Did any of these working poor have mobile phones?
Coz if they did by your logic........
Big screen tv's?
Smoke?
Drink?
Now I'm one of those that detests the divisions forced upon us by the press, media and the powerful
Even these bloody reality shows where they ask those same few questions
"If they're so poor how come they all smoke drink and f'ing big tv's"
So really you must see the hypocrisy in some of your statements and sentiments
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn
originally posted by: antar
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn
The Obama phone?
originally posted by: antar
Looks as if my Thread (OP) title was misleading, well perhaps not misleading but more like incomplete. I have many questions, I want to be unchanged by what is happening worldwide, to not have strong negative feelings against others because of what I hear and see and read. They say money, power, politics can change a person. They also say religion changes a person. So why when people change it is rarely for the betterment of themselves and others?
I am not against change, far from it, but change that brings us up, that raises all of our collective consciousness. I believe this planet and all life are precious, that we are at a precipice of change one way or another. Sometimes I wonder if there is anything to alternate realities, what has become of the other dimensions coexisting side by side with ours? Is our plane of existence, our dimensional level so low that the best we can do is to destroy humanity and hope for a better future in a few millions years?
Are you presuming I am a Christian?
originally posted by: antar
originally posted by: asen_y2k
I am neither a muslim, nor a refugee, but I do know a few refugees currently in Germany. The ones I know are doctors. One of them had family members killed by ISIS. Normal guys these refugees, worried about getting their working permits at the moment, studying the language and preparing to pass the German medical equivalency exam. Bottom line, these guys are like any other bloke, they just dont drink beer and that the only difference between me and them..
THANKYOU for your post. You are exactly the member or among our respected members that I am asking this of. So many threads devoted to the emotional/political side of this, I have even joined in, BUT, the questions are honest and important questions for an open minded person as myself and most assuredly other members.
Too many media gag orders to know truth from fiction. In any exodus such as this there will be every type of human being. Just wanting to know for sure rather than make blind assumptions against all because of a few. This thread is not about cell phones, but rather what the refugee's are posting that are in camps and on the run.
if I am a radical then I would much rather have my kind of radical which is to not hurt or harm anyone and for everyone to just live peacefully together.
unfortunately in today's climate that is becoming harder and harder to do
originally posted by: anxiouswens
I'm genuinely interested then to know if you think this letter is legitimate statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk... I've never posted this, or quite a lot of other stuff I have seen, because contrary to common belief although I post stuff from Daily Mail and Daily Express in most cases I do carry out research before posting to make sure it is real news. I've not posted this letter because I'm not sure if it is genuine or not as we don't know who the author is. Do you agree with anything that is said in the letter or is everything in it pure lies? I'm just interested to know because this has been on so many different forums.a reply to: asen_y2k
originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: anxiouswens
if I am a radical then I would much rather have my kind of radical which is to not hurt or harm anyone and for everyone to just live peacefully together.
unfortunately in today's climate that is becoming harder and harder to do
Psychopaths and lonewolfs are not a whole group they are individuals
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
originally posted by: anxiouswens
I'm genuinely interested then to know if you think this letter is legitimate statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk... I've never posted this, or quite a lot of other stuff I have seen, because contrary to common belief although I post stuff from Daily Mail and Daily Express in most cases I do carry out research before posting to make sure it is real news. I've not posted this letter because I'm not sure if it is genuine or not as we don't know who the author is. Do you agree with anything that is said in the letter or is everything in it pure lies? I'm just interested to know because this has been on so many different forums.a reply to: asen_y2k
Now that I have been educated and informed that the asylum seekers are being provided free cell phones, free service, free Wi-Fi, free data plans, and free solar chargers, and I live in America, I can't get a cell signal, I pay through the nose for an unreliable Wi-Fi connection, and have a cap on my data usage; but I digress.
Now that I know these asylum seekers are all plugged in, it might explain a lot of the behavior we are seeing. I guess even asylum seekers want their YouTube moment, and their 15 minutes of fame. Everybody wants to be tougher and more bad ass then the other guy and we do live in a “pic or it didn’t happen world”.
Not a reply to you but in general: We should keep in mind that these refugees could have been quite rich folks before the war. They are not poor masses but normal everyday people fleeing the slaughter of a brutal war. Thus we see refugees who at times complain of 'bad' provisions at the camps.
originally posted by: antar
a reply to: asen_y2k
Ok so where are the direct communications from the refugee's that state conditions are bad at the camps?
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: asen_y2k
Not a reply to you but in general: We should keep in mind that these refugees could have been quite rich folks before the war. They are not poor masses but normal everyday people fleeing the slaughter of a brutal war. Thus we see refugees who at times complain of 'bad' provisions at the camps.
If those quite rich folk are among those involved in the massive influx, then they are either bankrolling the masses or exploiting them and us.
originally posted by: antar
a reply to: asen_y2k
Can only star you once. I appreciate your honesty and candor in what you can share. Can you relate to what I am saying here in that the media allows only so much truth and that it is mostly false (by omission) and a skewed to the agenda it is pushing whether for or against this