ISIS traffic from Iraq to Syria travels unimpeded

a reply to: FlySolo

Get that video sent to the Kremlin pronto, I'm sure this will be taken care of haha

Watched the video and read the article in the link. Frankly, anyone drawing a conclusion that it's somehow a US escort operation is just seeing what they want to see. Some of you think the US is behind everything you don't like. To you, I say you're no different than people who see evidence of life on Mars because you squinted just right at a picture of a rock and saw lizard.

All I see is a lot of Toyota trucks. What the helicopter was doing is anyone's guess.

[sarcasm] It looks like a Royal Canadian Air Force helicopter leading a convoy of Canadian sourced Toyotas. Canadians... can't trust them ya know! [/sarcasm]

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Well, a simple deduction tells you Toyota isn't standard military issue. But that helicopter sure is. So, what does your deductive reasoning tell you?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: FlySolo

Just freakin amazing how little attention this attracted here. Talk about smoking guns.

ATS?

Crickets…

Simple because it just can't be true! Those are really the good guys.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Well, a simple deduction tells you Toyota isn't standard military issue. But that helicopter sure is. So, what does your deductive reasoning tell you?

Also issued to the Free Syrian Army by the US who would provide air cover to their investment, possible trained in Iraq and sent into Syria:

medium.com...

Oh but wait, the US is funding and arming ISIS directly because ISIS was purposely created by the US government....you need to start thinking a bit more reasonable pal because its embarrassing.

a reply to: FlySolo

Yep I had a letter from an A-10 Pilot who said the convoys and roads were open for ISIS and he could not get clearance to fire... Just send nice videos back to home base..

He was some kinda pissed and thought the whole thing was a farce.

I do not condone our nations foreign policies especially when nothing but lies and half truths are used to support their cause.. Nothing I can do about it unfortunately.

originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: FlySolo

Yep I had a letter from an A-10 Pilot who said the convoys and roads were open for ISIS and he could not get clearance to fire... Just send nice videos back to home base..

He was some kinda pissed and thought the whole thing was a farce.

I do not condone our nations foreign policies especially when nothing but lies and half truths are used to support their cause.. Nothing I can do about it unfortunately.

To be honest, if I were in charge of the RoE I would deny it too, its far too easy to brass up a "friendly" column. Just see the "friendly fire" incidents in GW1 & 2. Better telling them to report movement than kill them and then kill all the Toyotas and troops you had just spent a million dollars on training.

Imagine the stupidity of America spending millions on Toyotas and training only to have a trigger happy pilot grease them because we cant tell the difference of ISIS and FSA from 12000ft...can you imagine it? I will explain it again if you cant.

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: FlySolo

Yep I had a letter from an A-10 Pilot who said the convoys and roads were open for ISIS and he could not get clearance to fire... Just send nice videos back to home base..

He was some kinda pissed and thought the whole thing was a farce.

I do not condone our nations foreign policies especially when nothing but lies and half truths are used to support their cause.. Nothing I can do about it unfortunately.

To be honest, if I were in charge of the RoE I would deny it too, its far too easy to brass up a "friendly" column. Just see the "friendly fire" incidents in GW1 & 2. Better telling them to report movement than kill them and then kill all the Toyotas and troops you had just spent a million dollars on training.

Imagine the stupidity of America spending millions on Toyotas and training only to have a trigger happy pilot grease them because we cant tell the difference of ISIS and FSA from 12000ft...can you imagine it? I will explain it again if you cant.

And the reply is:

I basically do not have any decision making authority in my cockpit. It sucks. In most cases, unless a general officer can look at a video picture from a UAV, over a satellite link, I cannot get authority to engage. I've spent many hours, staring through a targeting pod screen in my own cockpit, watching ISIS #heads perpetrate their acts until my eyes bleed, without being able to do anything about it. The institutional fear of making a mistake, that has crept into the central mindset of the military leadership, is endemic. We have not taken the fight to these guys. We haven't targeted their centers of gravity in Raqqa. All the roads between Syria and Iraq are still intact with trucks flowing freely. The other night I watched a couple hundred small tanker trucks lined up at an oilfield in ISIS-held northeast Syria, presumably filling up with oil traded on the black market, go unfettered. It's not uncommon to wait several hours overhead a suspected target for someone to make a decision to engage or not. It feels like we are simply using the constructs build up in Afghanistan, which was a very limited fight, in the same way here against ISIS, which is a much more sophisticated and numerically greater foe. It's embarrassing.

Just a very short excerpt form his email

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: FlySolo

Just freakin amazing how little attention this attracted here. Talk about smoking guns.

ATS?

Crickets…

Simple because it just can't be true! Those are really the good guys.

Not far fetched to imagine some people piggybacking a ride. How else do we suppose US "advisors" are getting into Syria?

They aren't going through customs…

a reply to: 727Sky

Thanks for that snippet of pilot frustration being held back from engaging what he is sure is enemy activity. The simple fact of the matter could be that they aren't the enemy and aren't to be attacked (proof is in pilots pudding). Assad is the US enemy and the terrs are the clandestine operations to take Syria down.

Ahem, just like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan. Or Vietnam, for that matter.

Of course they're being escorted unimpeded by a US Apache. Since we created ISIS and provided them with Toyota trucks, we want to protect our investments.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: FlySolo

Just freakin amazing how little attention this attracted here. Talk about smoking guns.

ATS?

Crickets…

It does look highly suspicious,but we have no real way of knowing who s who and what is what.....certainly at face value it looks like an apache and as it was not attacking so we can assume it was protecting,

In saying that if that was not ISIS in those trucks i would hazard a guess there soon will,maybe they bought them on ebay and that is just the delivery

Further reflecting they were traveling at such speed on an open hiway (in broad daylight) to defeat surveillance by satellite. They waited for the satellites to pass overhead and then made a run for the border, as fast as possible, to avoid detection by the Russians. An armored column would be moving too slow to make the crossing, before surveillance birds came back over the horizon.

Which leads to speculation of a pretty firm nature that that intel stemmed from a hi tech agency, like the US. Now think about who's flying that gun ship… who controls Iraq airspace, wants Assad gone and is in those trucks?

a reply to: intrptr
Exactly my thoughts.

a reply to: awareness10

Morning, awareness10. Amazing that video like this is absent from the main stream.

They're too busy blaming ISIS for downing the Russian airliner, without any proof whatsoever. Video of a whole armed column of white pickup trucks speeding into Syria? Not a peep.

Theres your sign.

a reply to: intrptr

I know it wasn't isis who downed the russian plane because they're simply not smart enough or organized enough to do something like that, plus they immediately said they'd done it, without the facts, which now make them look more like idiots than they already did.

a reply to: awareness10

OH, I meant the Main stream media is blaming them, like you said, without the facts, because the event is going is being used to generate support for a boots on ground invasion of Syria.

First the media campaign (Assad must go), then sanctions, then US backed insurgency, then the airstrikes, then the ground and pound. Its how wars to conquer and subjugate countries are processed. One proof it is proceeding is the flood of refugees.

Another is the Russian intervention to stop it. The Syrians themselves are reeling against the ropes.

a reply to: intrptr

Ok yes, it is a media circus. There is no honesty left in media and there are very few good news sources left who actually have a conscience, and tell the truth.

The entire thing is a complete disaster, I keep seeing it all falling fast like a house of cards very soon.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: intrptr

Ok yes, it is a media circus. There is no honesty left in media and there are very few good news sources left who actually have a conscience, and tell the truth.

The entire thing is a complete disaster, I keep seeing it all falling fast like a house of cards very soon.

Spew news channels been carrying the Paris attack for two days straight, now. That excuse to invade Syria we were talking about the other day? Its here.

A post of mine two weeks ago wondering how awful a "Terror Incident" excuse they will need to get everyone on board to go into Syria:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now all we need is any presidential announcement, "I have decided to begin ground operations in Syria…"

The good news Awareness, this latest US military expedition will be so like all the others all the way back to Vietnam and Korea. Endless war for profit, proxy style in hapless foreign countries. The bad news is the world is shrinking and the Russians and Chinese (among others) are at least equal in arms and technology to the US, nowadays.

a reply to: intrptr

Thanks for this!