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Play-time is over, children: Putin's message to the Western elites

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 01:29 PM
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First Off, thanks to ATS Member flammadraco for pointing out this speech is more than one year old, however i think it is even more relevant due to activities between now and then

OK, secondly, this is in the WWIII forum as i think if things keep on going the way they are, its inevitable.

Thirdly, I am not Pro Russian, Pro Putin, Pro USA, Pro Obama, Pro UK, Pro Cameron etc etc, i am a normal Joe who follows MSM as well as Alt News Sites and consider myself fairly up to speed as to current events.

Just read this and thought i would share as i found it very interesting both in subject and context. Its a long read but well worth it ...... intro follows, follow the link for the full article and the Transcipt of Putin's speech at the Valdai conference in Sochi last week (October 29th 2014)



Most people in the English-speaking parts of the world missed Putin's speech at the Valdai conference in Sochi a few days ago, and, chances are, those of you who have heard of the speech didn't get a chance to read it, and missed its importance. (For your convenience, I am pasting in the full transcript of his speech below.) Western media did their best to ignore it or to twist its meaning. Regardless of what you think or don't think of Putin (like the sun and the moon, he does not exist for you to cultivate an opinion) this is probably the most important political speech since Churchill's "Iron Curtain" speech of March 5, 1946.

In this speech, Putin abruptly changed the rules of the game. Previously, the game of international politics was played as follows: politicians made public pronouncements, for the sake of maintaining a pleasant fiction of national sovereignty, but they were strictly for show and had nothing to do with the substance of international politics; in the meantime, they engaged in secret back-room negotiations, in which the actual deals were hammered out. Previously, Putin tried to play this game, expecting only that Russia be treated as an equal. But these hopes have been dashed, and at this conference he declared the game to be over, explicitly violating Western taboo by speaking directly to the people over the heads of elite clans and political leaders.


Link :-

Club Orlov

Lots more links on Internet Search engines if you think this link is unreliable. Or just search for a transcript of his speech. Why did i not see this article on Western MSM?

Lot of information / comment which happen to reflect my views on current affairs and what goes on behind the scenes with the elite. No BS and very truthful as to where we, as a society are and what is likely to happen if we, as a global society do not change. Also where we could be, if we do change.

Comments please ATS

Cheers CbG
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Oh darn I missed what this was all about



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor


Lol wtf is that?

What did they do that was so libelous that you've banned all materials from them.

Evidence plz

EDIT: This is directed towards ATS and not you guvnor

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 01:36 PM
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edit on 5-11-2015 by VP740 because: It now lacks context.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

You know Putin made the speech in October 2014?



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

You know Putin made the speech in October 2014?


Does it matter when? this is the first time I have seen it, today!!! just over a Year later as it was not reported in MSM here in the UK. The points are still valid, even more so a year on

Look where we were then as to where we are now, think about it, he may as well have been talking to my living room wall, nothing has changed in the NWO agenda except a ramp up of conflict and surveillance, do i have to reference the draft Investigatory Powers Bill currently on its way through Parliament? nah, that's a thread unto itself

Just saying
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 02:21 PM
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The evidence is in the pudding. Only one guy seems concerned with getting rid of the twats in power pushing countries hint, the ones who created IS and other such messes in certain countries.

The men who fought for the West would be well to raise up from their graves and show the rest of us how to rid the world of the rodents and vipers once again.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: VP740


I get it, it now lacks context as its old news (that i never saw) but all i will say is ........ rewind to when it was said, take it in, fast forward to present and have a fresh look as to what was said against where we are now, looks like the game is still being played, only, someone has found speedups



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

You know Putin made the speech in October 2014?


Does it matter when? this is the first time I have seen it, today!!! just over a Year later as it was not reported in MSM here in the UK. The points are still valid, even more so a year on

Look where we were then as to where we are now, think about it, he may as well have been talking to my living room wall, nothing has changed in the NWO agenda except a ramp up of conflict and surveillance, do i have to reference the draft Investigatory Powers Bill currently on its way through Parliament? nah, that's a thread unto itself

Just saying


We aren't in WWIII yet that's for sure.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

He makes some good points....

But the fact that he paints himself (and russia) as the 'good guy' is a little too convenient imho!



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

"this is in the WWIII forum as i think if things keep on going the way they are, its inevitable."

I never said we were



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Ok... Let's try again, we aren't closer to WWIII today than we were 1 year ago. In FACT, I'd say we are less closer to it than we were one year ago.

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

He makes some good points....

But the fact that he paints himself (and russia) as the 'good guy' is a little too convenient imho!



I didn't take it that he was painting anything, just saying it as it is. Show me the paint if you could (Meaning show me evidence where he is talking BS)



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Ok... Let's try again, we aren't closer to WWIII today than we were 1 year ago. In FACT, I'd say we are less closer to it than we were one year ago.


Obviously your opinion is appreciated and welcome, some agree, some would disagree. Can you explain why we are less closer please



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Because one year ago, Russia was in the news practically everyday. Right now, barely any news is going on about that country. You can believe we are about to fight an imminent world war with Russia all day, but you are going to be in for a LONG wait.

It's funny how people in this day and age can honestly say that we are close to WWIII. At no point since the USSR fell have we even been in a howitzer's range of being in WWIII. Now the Cuban missile crisis on the other hand...

Talking about WWIII these days is pretty much just fear porn. First world countries have learned that they can do FAR more damage with computer and economic warfare than with physical warfare. That's why wars are fought as proxy wars these days.
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

I commented on the OP being censored apon first viewing this thread. I removed my post because the OP is no longer censored.

I actually gave you a flag. I haven't seen this before either and it's very interesting. I recall hearing early on from the US that we must not turn the war on terror into a war on Islam. It sounded like Russia didn't agree on that amongst other things. I wonder where this will lead. I don't really trust Russia, but our leadership sure has given them a nice soapbox to lecture us from.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:38 PM
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First world countries have learned that they can do FAR more damage with computer and economic warfare than with physical warfare. That's why wars are fought as proxy wars these days.


I strongly disagree with that.
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Because one year ago, Russia was in the news practically everyday. Right now, barely any news is going on about that country. You can believe we are about to fight an imminent world war with Russia all day, but you are going to be in for a LONG wait.

It's funny how people in this day and age can honestly say that we are close to WWIII. At no point since the USSR fell have we even been in a howitzer's range of being in WWIII. Now the Cuban missile crisis on the other hand...

Talking about WWIII these days is pretty much just fear porn.


OK i get your point, however i never said WWIII would be caused by or started by the Russians. What i said was - what Putin said in that speech was full of truth as to where the globe currently stands, straight talking so to speak, and his vision of the future if we, as a global community do nothing about it. This globe is not just about USA v Russia (Honestly). The start of WWIII could come from anywhere, right now it looks like the ME, could be India, Pakistan, N Korea, China, UK, USA.

Once the natives start getting restless anything could happen, and i believe there are lots of countries where the natives are getting restless ....... not a good thing if i remember the game "the settlers" (using real life algorithms)



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

I didnt even realize that this speech was a year old when posting my reply!

i dont trust putin either way! with his smug grin!

the rest of ATS may swallow his BS, but i dont!



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

I didnt even realize that this speech was a year old when posting my reply!

i dont trust putin either way! with his smug grin!

the rest of ATS may swallow his BS, but i dont!


That wasn't the question i was trying to ask, what i was after (forget he's a bare chested ex KGB smarmy MF) was his evaluation back in 2014 correct in your opinion, and has the situation accelerated some in the last 12 months?




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