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Four stabbed, suspect shot at UC Merced campus

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Well you know. Silly cops, meeting lethal threats with equal force. It happens.


No, I literally meant, if he wasn't dead we would be able to find out why he did this instead of having to speculate.

It wasn't a dig at the police, I wasn't there so don't know why they had to choose the lethal option.




posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Gotcha. I withdraw the snarkiness then, and concur.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

I'm going with "ON his meds."

Oh, and a shining example of how you don't need a gun to inflict mass injury.

Aren't deadly weapons banned on campuses in California?

Hmmmm...



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

They are, I believe.

You know, half the reason I posted this was to see the response. The MSM largely ignored this. Not entirely, but largely. And what did ATS do? The exact same thing. It was a mass attack on a college campus, but no guns were involved so it passes with barely a whimper.

Disappointing, really.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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The only difference between this guy and people who don't do things like this is impulse control.

No agendas, probably nothing to do with whether he was "off his meds" as so many allude to, nothing but stress and confusion and hopelessness on the attackers part.

Most do not even try to relate to how one could be pushed to the breaking point like that.

That is the problem in this world.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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Attacker's name has been released:


abc7news.com...
Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke has identified the suspect in Wednesday's stabbing at UC Merced as Faisal Mohammad, an 18-year-old from Santa Clara. ,,, Investigators say it started with a fight Wednesday morning inside a classroom. Mohammad pulled a knife and then took his attack outside. ...
School officials and authorities... confirmed the suspect was a student living on campus. Authorities also confirmed that the FBI is on the scene assisting in the investigation.


If this is just the result of some fight gone out-of-control(meaning it was not likely a planned event), why is the FBI there?



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: starviego

Goth or Emo maybe, instead of that old video game black ops crap.

See how we are?.

We think the way we are trained, the way we are conditioned to think.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 09:54 AM
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The head of security at UC Merced has solid globalist credentials:


heavy.com... The head of UC Merced’s safety and security is campus police chief and assistant vice-chancellor Albert Vasquez. ... The Merced Sun Star reports that Vasquez was on the U.N. International Police Task Force and the Department of Justice’s International Criminal Investigative Training Assistance Program.

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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abc7news.com...
He was a freshman computer science & engineering major.


Here's a pic of the lil' imp:

twitter.com...^tfw
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: starviego

Attacker's name has been released:


abc7news.com...
Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke has identified the suspect in Wednesday's stabbing at UC Merced as Faisal Mohammad, an 18-year-old from Santa Clara. ,,, Investigators say it started with a fight Wednesday morning inside a classroom. Mohammad pulled a knife and then took his attack outside. ...
School officials and authorities... confirmed the suspect was a student living on campus. Authorities also confirmed that the FBI is on the scene assisting in the investigation.


If this is just the result of some fight gone out-of-control(meaning it was not likely a planned event), why is the FBI there?


The FBI is there maybe because they are investigating a possible terrorist attack based on what was in his backpack. It wasn't a random fight.



The attacks began just before 8 a.m. on the second floor of the Classroom and Office Building, which houses humanities and natural science classes.

Police say that Mohammad first slashed a student’s throat with a blade that authorities said was as long as 10 inches. Then, on his way out the classroom door, he stabbed a man in the waist and fled down a flight of stairs. Outside, he knifed another student before attacking a female university staff member, stabbing her multiple times.

[LA Times article on this link] www.lodinews.com...

Here's the backpack info:


Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke said they found nothing in Mohammad's history, his belongings, or his computer to indicate there was anything other than personal motivations to carry out the attack. He said Mohammad's backpack contained zip-tie handcuffs, petroleum jelly, a night scope, and a hammer to break windows. There was also a handwritten note that had a list of the items in his backpack, but not explanation for the stabbing incident. Warnke described the petroleum jelly as a "poor man's C4" explosive -- which is why the bomb squad was called out to neutralize the backpack.

abc30.com...

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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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This wouldn't have happened with a 'spork'.. Down w/metal eating utensils



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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Odd they describe Mohammad as an "Indian man".

If only we could discover a motive for his random attacks.
Most likely, Mohammad was a right-wing, Bible-thumping, Christian, TEA Party nutcase.


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posted on Nov, 6 2015 @ 06:28 AM
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Petroleum jelly is not a poor man's explosive in any way. It's good to rub on cracked lips though. Zip ties are just that, sure they can be used to tie people up. No idea on the reason for the hammer though.



posted on Nov, 6 2015 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6
Sorry to say it but this doesn't check the HOT TOPICS check boxes.

What argument will the gun grabbers have on this one?

It really is sad. Here we can show that gun law will NOT solve our problems and it gives us MORE insight. But because it does not fit into the neat stacks they have set up, they are not interested. Until we address the mental health issues we are NOT going to see an end to mass injuries and deaths.



posted on Nov, 6 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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More details emerge about the serial stabber:


Faisal Mohammad, a slender freshman in glasses, entered his Wednesday morning class with a 10-inch knife, a backpack filled with zip-tie handcuffs, duct tape and, in his pocket, a point-by-point script for vengeance, Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke told reporters: “He had a pretty elaborate idea of what he wanted to do.”


What did the script include?


Wearing his signature cowboy hat, the sheriff told a crowd of reporters Thursday “there is nothing to indicate this was anything other than a teenage boy who got upset with fellow classmates.”

Asked if the manifesto made any references to Allah, Warnke said there were, but dismissed any suggestion that Mohammad was motivated by religion.

“His belief was through the Muslim faith, but there’s nothing to indicate anything other than that,” Warnke said. “It’d be like a Christian referring to the Lord Jesus."


Just another isolated incident, then.


As of Thursday, two of the victims remained hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries. The construction worker who interrupted Mohammad, Byron Price, was treated for his wounds Wednesday and released.

On Thursday, he told the Sun-Star that Mohammad had smiled as he slashed at people, but “looked scared.”

“He also looked like he was having fun,” Price said. “His eyes, I could see fear in his eyes. He was smiling.”


Doesn't this also sound familiar?

Attacker’s manifesto reveals plan to kill ‘a lot of people’

Another source has a bit more detail:


Warnke said the document indicated Mohammad was upset after being kicked out of a study group. His manifesto included a “detailed list” of targets and plans to tie students to desks in an effort to lure police into the room. From there, the computer science and engineering student wanted to take the officer’s gun and shoot people.

The manifesto indicated Mohammad “intended to kill a lot of people,” authorities said, according to the Merced Sun-Star. Investigators had said night vision goggles, duct tape and zip tie had been found in his backpack.

The document also included several references to Allah, the sheriff said. Warnke, however, stressed that there was “still nothing to indicate” Mohammad’s Muslim religion had anything to do with his motive. He compared the references made to Allah to a Christian making references to Jesus before carrying out a life-changing decision.


Two-Page Handwritten Manifesto Found on Body of UC Merced Attacker — Here’s What It Said, and Who He Praised

Alienated and wound up by his peers. He then turns to what he knows and then acts out based on his past.



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