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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

I don't see any disagreements, just making sure we're on the same page.




posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: Andy1144

I posted what I see.

Of course you are free to see whatever you want.
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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So you only deal with opinions correct? You never seem to provide arguments for why you think so. Which I'm not saying is wrong, but that seems to be your aim all along. To just say something and not exchange any counter proof as to why.
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Andy1144
So you only deal with opinions correct?

Says the person who only deals with opinions but refuses to accept that they are only opinions.

I don't need to provide arguments when they are posted all over the thread.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

They were claims based on facts, not opinions.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Andy1144

That's just like your opinion, man.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

Scientist: The physical universe is comprised of atoms at a smaller level.

Ats guy: That's just your opinion man.

On some level you could say it is an opinion, but based on evidence.
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Andy1144
Scientist: The physical universe is comprised of atoms at a smaller level.

Ats guy: That's just your opinion man.

That is not your argument, though.

You are arguing something that science is not backing up.
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

If there is an effect, then there needs to be a cause. This is the law of the universe.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Andy1144

So? That doesn't mean that you are applying it correctly and you thinking that you are is just an opinion.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

It's a simple but certain fact. Like 2+2 = 4. Of course I think I am correct because the evidence is certain.
Like I am also certain that one cannot be aware of being unaware. It's a fool proof fact.

I will only tell you of what I am sure of.
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Andy1144
I will only tell you of what I am sure of.

And you being sure is your opinion.

You have shown me over and over that you twist things to make them fit.

Science is a collection of data. "we don't know everything" means that the collection is not complete.

You twisted it to me saying that "you didn't know everything" which has nothing to do with the original statement.

That is why I am not open to discussing things with you in detail.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:32 PM
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And I already told you I don't and cannot know everything. This is a certain fact. The universe is infinite, it is impossible to know everything. I can be sure of this.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: Andy1144
And I already told you I don't and cannot know everything. This is a certain fact. The universe is infinite, it is impossible to know everything. I can be sure of this.

It was never about you knowing everything and I just said that, again, and this is your reply?

Science doesn't have fixed laws because it is understood that something can be discovered that will change what is known.


Just because an idea becomes a law, doesn't mean that it can't be changed through scientific research in the future.


What Is a Law in Science?



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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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The laws of physics can be changed with more research put into so those aren't exactly fixed laws but my point was different.

A fixed law is, you can only experience this moment. All there is, is this moment.

What you saying is, that is not a certain fact and in the future can be proven wrong since science is always evolving. But in this case it can't be proven wrong can it?



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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I said science is not backing you up on the fixed law claim.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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So what. All we can experience is this moment. This is a simple logical fact, and can not be refuted ever by anything. You think it can be refuted in the future?



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 01:54 PM
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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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I don't know what that link was for but I can know that all that can be experienced, is this moment and this cannot change ever. Science can discover and disprove the laws of physics we have now which I agree aren't as fixed as we think. But the fact that all that can be experienced, is this moment is a constant unchangeable fact which cannot be proven wrong, ever.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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You implying that science backed up what you are saying and some ATS guy just dismissed that.

Your claim is much more than just the experience of this moment. Those other things are things you can't prove.



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