Progressives Cheer: Mass Immigration Will Destroy The NRA And The Second Amendment

Many of us have said loud and clear that the primary purpose of massive immigration into our nation is for the express purpose of undermining our nations laws and traditions and tilting the voter make-up in favor of Progressive authoritarianism.

They are unable to win enough hearts and minds of the current population who refuses to overwhelmingly support suicidal policies, so simply import more voters from other cultures who are more pliable to leftest viewpoints.


Progressives Cheer: Mass Immigration Will Destroy The NRA And The Second Amendment
www.washingtonpost.com...

The NRA will fall. It’s inevitable

Polls show that whites tend to favor gun rights over gun control by a significant margin (57 percent to 40 percent). Yet whites, who comprise 63 percent of the population today, won’t be in the majority for long. Racial minorities are soon to be a majority, and they are the nation’s strongest supporters of strict gun laws.

An overwhelming majority of African Americans say that gun control is more important than gun rights (72 percent to 24 percent). While the African American population shows signs of slow growth, other racial minority groups are growing more rapidly — and report even greater support for gun control.

The fastest-growing minority group in America is Latinos. Between 2000 and 2010, the nation’s Latino population grew by 43 percent. Hispanics, which make up 17 percent of the population today, are expected to grow to 30 percent of the population in the coming decades.

Gun control is extremely popular among Hispanics, with 75 percent favoring gun safety over gun rights.

Asian Americans also represent a growing anti-gun demographic. Although only about 5 percent of the population today, the Asian American population is predicted to triple over the next few decades. A recent poll of Asian American registered voters found that 80 percent supported stricter gun laws.

a reply to: infolurker

Enemy's Of The State . Traitors To Our Nation !

a reply to: infolurker

Come n' get em'

Aint going down without a fight.

a reply to: infolurker

Ain't it grand? A nation of crime victims. Should be interesting. Actually, if were to have been born in 2030 or so, the lure of the easy pickings in a life of crime might well be too tempting to resist.

a reply to: infolurker
I guess it is a good time for another ammo run.

I told the wife and kids, ammunition for Christmas please.

Anyone who doesn't see this coming is being willfully ignorant.
The next step will be a new SC ruling on a Fed ban on magazine size and rifles that look scary. ea: assault weapons. Like we already have in NY
Baby steps.

Who needs the Houses for laws anymore when it is so much easier to get your agenda through with the SC.

Thanks for the thread Infolurker.

a reply to: infolurker

You sound like the NRA is some type of monarchy that will be stormed.

There needs to be a common ground that preserves the 2nd Amendment yet reduces murder by gun. It should be that simple.

Well there goes more gun sales once this hits more MSM news. The other side of the same coin Bush and Co.(no, they are not working together at all move long!) want immigration because Americans are not having children at a rate they want for workers(but what jobs?)and figure they can use new people to take very low pay jobs.

It won't stay that way for long, they too will find they cannot get by anymore than Americans before them put through the same. Maybe the politicians, etc, figure that a heavy change in the 2nd Amendment and firearms will balance out the crime when the country further descends into less employment and skyrocketing poverty.

originally posted by: slapjacks
a reply to: infolurker

Come n' get em'

Aint going down without a fight.

I've said before that when sh*t gets sideways, those illegals had better learn perfect English real quick.

C'mon, they don't want our guns.... [sarcasm off]

The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

originally posted by: the owlbear
The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

This reflects it best.
www.theobjectivestandard.com...

Individualism vs. Collectivism: Our Future, Our Choice - Craig Biddle

The fundamental political conflict in America today is, as it has been for a century, individualism vs. collectivism. Does the individual’s life belong to him—or does it belong to the group, the community, society, or the state?

Individualism is the idea that the individual’s life belongs to him and that he has an inalienable right to live it as he sees fit, to act on his own judgment, to keep and use the product of his effort, and to pursue the values of his choosing. It’s the idea that the individual is sovereign, an end in himself, and the fundamental unit of moral concern. This is the ideal that the American Founders set forth and sought to establish when they drafted the Declaration and the Constitution and created a country in which the individual’s rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness were to be recognized and protected.

Collectivism is the idea that the individual’s life belongs not to him but to the group or society of which he is merely a part, that he has no rights, and that he must sacrifice his values and goals for the group’s “greater good.” According to collectivism, the group or society is the basic unit of moral concern, and the individual is of value only insofar as he serves the group. As one advocate of this idea puts it: “Man has no rights except those which society permits him to enjoy. From the day of his birth until the day of his death society allows him to enjoy certain so-called rights and deprives him of others; not . . . because society desires especially to favor or oppress the individual, but because its own preservation, welfare, and happiness are the prime considerations.”

Such is the state of politics in America today, and this is the choice we face: Americans can either continue to ignore the fact that collectivism is utterly corrupt from the ground up, and thus continue down the road to statism and tyranny—or we can look at reality, use our minds, acknowledge the absurdities of collectivism and the atrocities that follow from it, and shout the truth from the rooftops and across the Internet.

Progressivism has always depended on the destruction of American traditions and culture to advance its agenda. It has to, because it's American individualism that stands in the way of the collectivist worldview.


As such, one of the highest priority targets for the Left is gun rights.

a reply to: infolurker
A propaganda piece from the Washington Post? Who would have thought?

They're kidding themselves(and us). I know blacks and Hispanics both. None that I know have any wish for more gun control. More like less. Much less.

originally posted by: the owlbear
The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

Seems strange to call someone a progressive liberal , when in fact they want less rights and more control. The gun lobby and NRA aren't scaring me....it's the cry of "gun control " after each new crazy person killing unarmed people in a "gun free zone ".

Murder, assault, is already illegal. Any attempt to remove firearms from citizens is just a grab at more power and authority from government. But some people just do not like freedom and that population is growing. Doesn't matter their color or demographic, many just don't want to be free.

originally posted by: the owlbear
The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

The use of "progressive" in the political landscape is oxymoronic as is "liberal" as progressive policies are not progress in any real sense just as liberals are not really for any kind of liberty.

a reply to: infolurker

Progressivism has always depended on the destruction of American traditions and culture to advance its agenda.

Progressiveness is what made America. It was our drive and the need to push forward is what made us the most powerful nation on the planet. Regressiveness is what will destroy this nation.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: the owlbear
The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

The use of "progressive" in the political landscape is oxymoronic as is "liberal" as progressive policies are not progress in any real sense just as liberals are not really for any kind of liberty.

So why keep using them?

Progression is to move forward. Regression is to move backward. Stagnation is to remain in state with no real appearance to ever move forwards.

And as for the term liberal...
It means open to the thought of and implementation of new ideas, politically speaking. The opposite is Conservative, steadfastly holding onto ideas/ideals rather than pursuing a new course of action. It has nothing to do with liberty.

The Washington Post article ignores two main things that I notice right away:

-the role of the states in the process of overturning the second amendment. Immigration is concentrated in relatively few states and urban areas. Until the constitution is amended, laws will now and then get passed but those laws will not pass the legal challenges to those laws and so be overturned.

-the role of technology. By the time a generational shift of this magnitude has occurred, good technological solutions to problems like mass shootings will be affordable and probably already in place. There will no longer be any believable excuse to use crazy person running amok type tragedies to take guns out of the hands of law abiding Americans.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: the owlbear
The use of progressive as a derogatory term is befuddling to me.
The only other options are stagnation and regression.

Guns aren't going anywhere in American culture. No matter how much the gun lobby and the NRA scare you into thinking they are.

This reflects it best.
www.theobjectivestandard.com...

Individualism vs. Collectivism: Our Future, Our Choice - Craig Biddle

The fundamental political conflict in America today is, as it has been for a century, individualism vs. collectivism. Does the individual’s life belong to him—or does it belong to the group, the community, society, or the state?

That's the problem...labels.
Progressive, Liberal, collectivist, individualist, conservative, Libertarian, etc...

Painting with a wide brush and screaming "you're either with us (for all of our crackpot views), or against us" isn't helping the dynamic and dialogue of this country.
The percieved Left doesn't all make gun control their sole issue.
The percieved Right doesn't make abortion their sole issue.