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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Kali74
If people only want to see movies with no blacks or jews attached to the film, then their list might be a tiny bit short and with German audio.
I'll go see it because I like the franchise and I'm a closet geek.
originally posted by: ketsuko
About the only legit criticism could be if you possibly think all the stormtroopers should still be clones of Jango Fett who was demonstrably not black. But I think by now that should have passed. Those would be some geriatric clones.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Kali74
So technically aren't every single Stormtrooper in the Empire dark skinned since Jango Fett was?
originally posted by: tallcool1
I long for the day when we all, as a human race, grow past this bull-poop and quit seeing people as colors. Maybe we should put these little twerps into a "scared straight" kind of scenario where they would hopefully literally get the piss scared out of them and end their stupidity.
SMH...
RE: Star Wars - I'm so geeking out for this movie. I'm one of the few that think JJ did ok with Star Trek and I can't wait to see where he goes with Star Wars!
With apologies to Arthur C. Clarke and his publishers.
Reunion
First published in Infinity #2, 1971
Collected in The Wind from the Sun
People of Earth, do not be afraid. We come in peace - and why not? For we are your cousins; we have been here before.
You will recognise us when we meet, a few hours from now. We are approaching the solar system almost as swiftly as this radio message. Already, your sun dominates the sky ahead of us. It is the sun our ancestors and yours shared ten million years ago. We are men, as you are; but you have forgotten your history, while we have remembered ours.
We colonised Earth, in the reign of the great reptiles, who were dying when we came and whom we could not save. Your world was a tropical planet then, and we felt that it would make a fair home for our people. We were wrong. Though we were masters of space, we knew so little about climate, about evolution, about genetics...
For millions of summers - there were no winters in those ancient days - the colony flourished. Isolated though it had to be, in a universe where the journey from one star to the next takes years, it kept in touch with its parent civilisation. Three or four times in every century, starships would call and bring news of the galaxy.
But two million years ago, Earth began to change. For ages it had been a tropical paradise; then the temperature fell, and the ice began to creep down from the poles. As the climate altered, so did the colonists. We realise now that it was a natural adaptation to the end of the long summer, but those who had made Earth their home for so many generations believed that they had been attacked by a strange and repulsive disease. A disease that did not kill, that did no physical harm - but merely disfigured.
Yet some were immune; the change spared them and their children. And so, within a few thousand years, the colony had split into two seperate groups - almost two seperate species - suspicious and jealous of each other.
The division brought envy, discord, and, ultimately, conflict. As the colony disintegrated and the climate steadily worsened, those who could do so withdrew from Earth. The rest sank into barbarism.
We could have kept in touch, but there is so much to do in a universe of a hundred trillion stars. Until a few years ago, we did not know that any of you had survived. Then we picked up your first radio signals, learned your simple languages, and discovered that you had made the long climb back from savagery. We come to greet you, our long-lost relatives - and to help you.
We have discovered much in the eons since we abandoned Earth. If you wish us to bring back the enternal summer that ruled before the Ice Ages, we can do so. Above all, we have a simple remedy for the offensive yet harmless genetic plague that afflicted so many of the colonists.
Perhaps it has run its course - but if not, we have good news for you. People of Earth, you can rejoin the society of the universe without shame, without embarrassment.
If any of you are still white, we can cure you.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
Is it people not wanting blacks in the film or is it fans that feel that the roles were not made for blacks when the series was born. I do not think they are racist but that they want thing to be like the first ones.
originally posted by: Kali74
originally posted by: ketsuko
About the only legit criticism could be if you possibly think all the stormtroopers should still be clones of Jango Fett who was demonstrably not black. But I think by now that should have passed. Those would be some geriatric clones.
How's that? Aboriginals have very dark skin.
Finn - John Boyega
Thanks to last year’s teaser, John Boyega’s Finn was actually the first of the new characters we got to "meet" from Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but sadly the actor is still trying to keep his role in the movie as secretive as possible. As described by Boyega during the panel, the character begins the story finding himself in incredible danger. This fact winds up changing his life completely, and "launches him into the Star Wars universe in a unique way." That’s not much to go on, but it was finally confirmed that the character does indeed start the movie as a Stormtrooper (a reveal that earned him a comedic glare from J.J. Abrams on stage).
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Kali74
originally posted by: ketsuko
About the only legit criticism could be if you possibly think all the stormtroopers should still be clones of Jango Fett who was demonstrably not black. But I think by now that should have passed. Those would be some geriatric clones.
How's that? Aboriginals have very dark skin.
Since I only ever saw the movie once, back when it was released, I am operating off of memory. I remember Jango as looking more Semitic/Mediterranean in skin tone - dark, but not as dark as the new stormtrooper. Since I hold with SkpeticScot that only the first troopers were actually clones and after the clone wars, the tech was destroyed so they had to start recruiting from all the Imperial planets ... it's a none issue to me. About the only thing that can't go in a trooper outfit is an alien since I seem to recall the Empire doesn't like aliens much. So they could put a black, white, Hispanic, Asian, or Inuit in there for all it matters. So long as the person acts ...
I was only pointing out that the only possible way someone could legitimately raise any kind of complaint is if they thought all troopers still had to be clones.