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Refugee figures expected to reach 1.5 million THIS YEAR, according to Government report

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posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:26 AM
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A SECRET Government report leaked to a German newspaper reveals how authorities have kept the true number of refugees pouring into the country down and that a mammoth 1.5 million - any maybe more - are expected this year.

It also predicted an increasing - perhaps even intolerable - strain on resources to deal with them all as the right for individuals to bring in family members if they are granted asylum could swell arrivals in the next two years to over seven million.

As social tensions rise and asylum centres are torched by neo-Nazis, Bild newspaper revealed on Monday that authorities reckon on 920,000 people arriving in the last three months of this year.


Refugee figures expected to reach 1.5 million THIS YEAR, according to Government report

This is getting so out of hand. This is just this year! Under asylum laws, as it rightly states, reunification will be granted and then Europe could be looking at 6 million just this year. How can any Country be expected to deal with those numbers without it having serious repercussions on the infrastructure and integration of these people. Lets not forget this is just this year. It is not going to suddenly stop next year. Merkel really opened pandoras box didn't she when she invited the world here. I know the EU had the talks a couple of weeks ago but there still doesn't seem to be any real changes with organisation and dealing with this problem.

On top of this David Cameron was told on his visit to Lebanon that 2 in every 100 could possibly be ISIS terrorists!! In my estimation this equates to 30,000 could possibly be ISIS terrorists. This is a small army. How Europe is going to deal with this if anything kicks off God knows. I think the UK need to blow up the euro tunnel urgently. Being an island is our only saving grace!

I find it really disturbing as well that up until 2 weeks ago all our main newspaper and new channels talked about nothing more than the refugee/migrants at Hungary's borders etc. Then suddenly after the EU meeting it is like all the main news channels have been told to stop reporting on it. Who has the power to order this? Why is everything being hidden from British people with regards to what is going on in Europe. Its all over the internet about marches in Germany against this (Pegida have a huge following now) and marches in other countries. Why aren't British people being told the truth.




posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:30 AM
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That is not a migration that is an invasion, migration is when people move in masses from different areas in the world, invasion is when one particular group of people move to specifics areas where they have not affinity to them.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

I haven't seen you around, but it is prevailing opinion of the gallery to show discontent or desire for a better solution to the refugee crisis, means you are heartless, an idiot, possibly fascist, and a likely a racist. So be ready for an onslaught of accusation.

Having said all that good post, and I agree with you.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

I been in ATS for a long time, I learned very early in my membership that when you tend to oppose to the most pushed views is good to grow a very thick skin and never let anything get to you.




posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:42 AM
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I wonder why they wanted to keep the real amount a secret anyway

The possibility of some of them being ISIS terrorists is quite scary...



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: sarahlm

The possibility, is a certainty or should be considered as such otherwise face a massive strategic failure. Everyone seems to forget that we are at war with extremism that uses guerrilla tactics to carry out attacks, a refugee crisis being the epitome of such philosophy. I don't know why this is being handled this way, other than the exploitation of sentimental feelings towards humanity's plight. The complete abandoning of national security, it's very confusing, something must be done to change the tide and still help humans who need help.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: sarahlm

No only Isis but any other terrorist sympathizers from the middle east as they are many groups, but the US only gives attention to one particular one at a time.

Muslim Brother hood
Hezzbollah a.k.a. Islamic Jihad
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
The Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
Al-Jihad a.k.a. Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Jihad Group, Islamic Jihad
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG)
Al-Ummah
Abu Nidal organization (ANO)
The National Liberation Army of Iran
Palestine Liberation Front
Asbat al-Ansar (The Partisans’ League)
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
The Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Harakat ul-Ansar (HUA)
Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
Jama'a Islamia

Just imagine that.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:50 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

It makes you think that the countries involved truly wants terrorism to come to their countries so they have an excuse to go into war with their citizens approval like they way we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 with majority approval.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:50 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Ah wow, I haven't hears of some of these before...
I do believe we should help those in need, but it all feels like it is getting out of hand and it's really worrying



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:54 AM
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a reply to: sarahlm

We should all be, as many of the immigrants would not be possibly run for backgrounds as many of them only need is to use fake identifications that are not in the most wanted lists of terrorism, that is why mass migration works for them.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

I don't know, and I don't speculate that direction. However I do know that apartheid and fascist elements can be given rise from such an occurance, so we not only face the threat of terrorism but also the internal threat of apartheid, a delicate balance indeed. Something must be done to stem the flow and also help those in need!



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

US can never be apartheid, due to the fact that US was founded in immigration even if it was mostly from northern EU. and in modern days we have about every nation in the world.

So apartheid will never be synonymous of Americas.

What we will start to see and have seen is the clustered groups of migrants living in certain areas in the US by majority keeping their own set of views and believes as they grow in numbers this crates conflicts with the laws that has been established already in the nation and under those laws these particular groups have the rights to their own believes in return.

The problems is when those individual believes start to create problems for those that do not follow them, so far is been minor incidents, but for how long.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:05 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

It is really hard to see anything good coming out of this.

Of course its wonderful and human to clap your hands and enjoy welcoming in anybody knocking on your door. Naturally you do that. You never should doubt stranger's intentions - open your home, open your wallet, and share responsibly.

Then again, maybe, maybe there is something else to consider also. I say maybe, so that you all commies and socialists, and other windbags can sleep well, so maybe, having million or 7 million people - mainly men - but some kids and women too to show some cred - but mainly men - coming from radicalized areas - and somehow ISIS has at the same time lost its army to oblivion - - MAYBE that is not that good sign - MAYBE you get load of radicals in - MAYBE you get lot of ethnic tensions on the bargain too.

Just saying. Not necessarily the easiest path. But, hey, your money, and your lawn. So enjoy.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: deckdel

I agree, used to be a great practice to open our doors to strangers in need, but no right now when we in the US are having soo many economical problems that we can not even take care of people that are already part of the population.

How can we take more without counting those that comes across the border every day.

For decades we have seen the deterioration of the industrial base in our nation, job creation in the nation has become nothing but a yearly number, because most citizens in the nation are barely making end met even with government assistance.

Our nation is not getting better no economically any way, but those that capitalize in immigration are doing just fine.


edit on 5-10-2015 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcalityLet the insults flow I'm bigger enough and old enough to take it. I haven't said anything racist, just stated facts. The label "racist" has no meaning anymore. It is used and has been used, for way too long to shout down any debate and has made people of this country frightened to put forward their true feelings. In fact, because this label has been used for so long now to shout down any debate it has actually made people more "racist" because things have been allowed to carry on in this Country for way too long which should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago. If British people's real worries and concerns had been taken into account many years ago then we would never have ended up in a situation where we have allowed hate preachers to shout their hatred on our streets and burn our flag. We would never have ended up with no go areas in London, Birmingham. From the start people migrating to this country should have been told of our values and laws and been fully integrated into our society and told if they didn't like it then Britain wasn't the place for them. I don't know any other country in the world where one of their soldiers is beheaded on a street and yet there are hardly any repercussions from the public. So to call everyone racist as soon as they say they are worried and concerned is ridiculous and just adds to the resentment, frustration and anger that a lot of people feel. Sooner or later all those pent up emotions are going to turn nasty.

I am not heartless either. My heart does go out to the families and children and I do believe David Cameron has done the right thing by taking the most vulnerable from the camps. My heart doesn't go out to the 80% fit, young, men. Whether some of the lefties/liberals agree or not they obviously pose a threat. A lot are very demanding and turn violent when things don't go their way. There are reports all over the internet about problems in camps in Germany where fights have broke out and where some women and children have been raped! There has also been in fighting between different religions. Do they seem the type of people who are going to adapt to the Country's value and customs? My heart goes out to all the homeless people we have in this country, to the families who are living in bed and breakfasts and terrible conditions, who have been on a waiting list for years and now are supposed to go to the back of the queue to let some of the refugees in.

I am not an idiot either! The idiots in my opinion are the people who don't seem able to see things as they really are. Fact we have thousands of vulnerable people in this country who are homeless. They are not all drugs addicts etc. Many are young people who are escaping abuse, many are adults with serious mental health problems who haven't got the help they need because there isn't the support there. Yet there will be counselling support for refugees who are coming here escaping abuse and horrific things. We already have hundreds of thousands coming here every year just from within Europe. The people who say these numbers don't have an effect on school places, NHS, GP's, housing, sewerage, roads are the idiots. If someone lived in a two bedroomed house and opened their doors to let anyone live there sooner or later there would be no room. The structure in that house wouldn't cope. One toilet/bath soon wouldn't be enough for all the extra people. One bin wouldn't be enough to cope with all the rubbish accumulated. There would be no room to move. We are a small island and can't keep taking these huge amounts of people. The lefties/liberals will shout but we have all the countryside. Do they realise that a lot of our countryside is farmland which is used to feed and clothe the residents of this island?

Being a racist to me would be if I was upset if my son who is only 8 years old came home when he was older with a partner of a different culture or religion and I was upset by this. I wouldn't be upset as long as my son was happy. Two of my son's closest friends from school are from Somalia and Poland. He goes to their houses and they come to ours and have days out etc. The difference is these friends are allowed to come to our house. Their parents are integrated and although his friend who is muslim doesn't celebrate Christmas etc in every other way he throws himself into British life and is encouraged by his mother and father.

Finally, I would like to the lefties/liberals if the tables were turned and my child and I had to escape this island because of some atrocity. How do you think the middle eastern countries would react to 1.5 million white Christians walking into their lands? I've noticed if you question any of the lefties/liberalists their convictions crumble away when it becomes personal. I asked someone just last week had he offered his home to support a refugee seeing as he thought we should just let everyone in? He answered no, but he would, but he only had a one bedroom flat. Say no more really!!

If 30,000 of these people in Europe walked in with an ISIS flag flying and dressed in black I wonder how people would react to that? If I tried to walk into any of the European countries I would be stopped straight away and have to show my passport and yet for some reason there is nothing being done to stop this. What are Europe so afraid of?



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

What should be the worst worry is that with any type of migration, or invasion by numbers, people have not clue who within the masses are truly looking for a better way of life or just bringing unwanted problems to the already established citizens on the countries been affected.

If the countries been affected already have problems with poverty, healthcare and the economy, the migrating groups will be left to roam the cities with not chance to find any thing to do with their lives, they will concentrate on the areas where is already established groups of the same nationality.

If those areas are poor and needy it just will create more problems to already existing ones.

A lot of people think that is a humanitarian crisis, but is more than that, the repercussions will be something that people will be taking for the rest of their lifetimes as people that migrate from their countries of origins due to many factors never go back to their countries again.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:35 AM
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It also predicted an increasing - perhaps even intolerable - strain on resources to deal with them all as the right for individuals to bring in family members if they are granted asylum could swell arrivals in the next two years to over seven million.


How are they going to feed, clothe and house that many people? And what will those people be willing to do when not If, the resources to take care of them run out? With that many pouring in, law enforcement is going to be a nightmare and it looks as if things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

To be honest, I don't think Tech was branding you racist. Rather, they said that you might well be accused of such on here regardless.



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens


edit on 5102015 by MrCrow because: Double post



posted on Oct, 5 2015 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

I noticed the blackout too on this 'immigration' 'Refugee' issue!
It was all over the News up till 2 weeks ago, then all of a sudden 'boom' its gone as if it never existed in the first place. What took its place?

A school shooting in the USA, floods and quakes!

What i hope is that most of them are being sent back home.




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