Russian aircraft "unmarked" in Syria

Do they really identify fighter planes by the markings on them nowdays? I thought they would be too quick and fight from too far away for markings to be visible.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: spy66
This happened today:

Six SU 30SM have intercepted 4 Israel F15s trying to Reach Syria from the coast of Lebanon.

The 4. F-15 returned to Israel.


See if i can find a link confirming this information.

Great now lets get th e Russians to fire on the ISraelis and get this party started. Oh wait the russian planes are un marked...how convenient for plausible deniability.

You got a point there...

But i do think the US/NATO and Isreal knows where their own fighters are compared to where the others are.

Moste missions are preplanned.


EDIT:
IF this event did take Place. It might have been a test to see if Russia would respond.... and probably how they would respond.

originally posted by: neo96
That's just Russia keeping it on the down low.

Like they did when they sent unmarked Russian troops into Crimea.

Agreed, an operation that is provided by volunteers and kept to an absolute minimum.

It means, they're not there to make war.

just read there that Russia/syria made an NO-FLY zone in syria...and restricted the western coalition forces
witch is IMO fully ligimit couse the syrian gov has invited his partner (Russia) for help...
the western coalition has no buizznis and rights to cross the syrian borders...if the syrian gov. do'nt want them there...
so for the west... stop moaning ! a reply to: intrptr

a reply to: Danton

Yep this generation 4 aircraft actually makes sense..
youtu.be...

:-) very nice..... luxury fighter.... emp proof apu installed... not bad for an underdog....a reply to: 727Sky

a reply to: ressiv

the syrian gov. do'nt want them there...

Really?

Syria has asked Washington to engage in military and intelligence collaboration to defeat their mutual enemy Isis, inviting US congressmen and senators to visit Damascus to discuss joint action against the jihadis who threaten both America and the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

www.independent.co.uk...
Looks like they do.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h
The meeting never took place, and a condition was cooperation coordination between the US and Syria
The Obama administration ruled out coordination with Assad’s regime .
www.washingtonpost.com... 0e-2d2e-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html

a reply to: all2human

And yet, intelligence and targets are being passed to Syria through other nations in the Coalition.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Regardless, unless strikes were/are taking place without the explicit consent of the Syrian government, or UN approval
they are illegal under international law.
Link/source please

a reply to: all2human

Is Assad himself a good enough source for you?

The U.S.-led coalition battling ISIS militants is passing information about airstrikes to the Syrian regime through third parties including Iraq, according to President Bashar Assad.

Assad told the BBC that there had been contact between the U.S.-led coalition and Syria as the two sides were separately carrying out airstrikes against ISIS using Syrian airspace, but he said: "There's no direct cooperation."

He said information has been passed "through a third party — more than one party — Iraq and other countries. Sometimes they convey a message, general message, but there's nothing tactical."

Assad added: "There is no dialogue. There is, let's say, information, but not dialogue."

www.nbcnews.com...

"The Syrian government has repeatedly criticized the coalition for failing to coordinate with it"

A US-led coalition began carrying out air strikes against the Islamic State (IS) jihadist group in Syria on September 23, but it has pointedly refused to coordinate with Damascus.

Assad confirmed there was no cooperation with the coalition, members of which he accused of backing "terrorism" in an apparent reference to their support for other rebels fighting to overthrow him.

"There's no direct cooperation" with the coalition, which includes several Arab governments as well as Washington, Assad said.

Unless strikes were/are taking place without the explicit consent of the Syrian government, or UN approval
they are illegal under international law



www.dailymail.co.uk...

a reply to: all2human

American pilots have been very frustrated With their missions is Syria.... Being told to hold short for long peridos of time before being allowed to take of towards their targets. And when the pilots Reach their tragets the war is over and everone have left.


Zapho: probably have some coments to that?

a reply to: all2human

Because there isn't cooperation. Syria has said they won't work with Washington. But there is information going to Syria from the coalition. Iraq and Jordan have said so, as has Syria.

a reply to: spy66

Yes, typical ROE. Have to make sure there are as few civilian casualties as possible, so Washington would rather tie the militaries hands than let them fight. It's the same thing they did in Afghanistan.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Then Washington should take the hint, either go through legal channels or consider themselves unwelcome in Syria.

a reply to: all2human

You think that if Syria didn't want the coalition there they'd just let them fly wherever they want without even firing a shot in the last year? The only thing they've shot at was a Predator that went lost comms.

Russian military is frigggging mighty my friends. They decide.

cheers)

a reply to: Zaphod58
And give the US-co what they wanted? reason to target/overthrow the evil Syrian government
Paint Assad as a defender of ISIS.
the answer is obvious.

a reply to: all2human

Oh of course. No matter what you have a reason to deny that there is information going to Syria, no matter who says differently.