Latest Corey Goode disclosure

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Of course, I can only speak for myself but it's not the "clown" himself that I care about. It's the information. I believe a lot of what he says, but not based on anything having to do with him personally. I have never even heard of this guy before now...or his coffee mugs for that matter.

Goode's underground breakaway race supremecists is a very strange detail to his story here. He goes on about not wanting to post it because one of the race's symbols looks like a swastika, but I don't know, if these people really do exist underground they sound like bigger racists than us - though maybe better organised. It all seems to follow the fantasy of breakaway nazi race purity civilisations but at the same time tries to reassure us it is nothing like that (except in the narrative, in the characters involved.. it really is).

originally posted by: Orborus
Goode's underground breakaway race supremecists is a very strange detail to his story here..

He's digging into the paranormal catalog for unusual material to keep people interested in his shtick.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

What happened to- "I take Corey's info with a grain of salt"? You've already posted a link twice to his website and now you're taking a defensive stance to negative comments on him.

Hmmmmmmm...

In order to take Corey's info with even a grain of salt and not just DISMISS it outright, i had to find some aspects that resemble credibility.

I presented them here and started this thread not to persuade anyone but rather to just discuss it.

I don't trust Randy Cramer and Corey Goode since they haven't really spoken a word about the Greys.

We know from multiple researchers that there is an ongoing abduction program. The small greys are the worker bees, the large greys are the overseeers and then there's Mantis type beings that are higher up in the chain again.

Researcher professor David Jacobs and others have found that the goal of the abductions is a hybrid program and Jacobs has also found that the hybrids are integrating into our society at least since 2003 and abductees are being trained for some future event where they have to assist when the masses panic.

Why are these guys not talking about this subject? The most important question to be answered right now is what is the purpose of the hybrid program? As long as Cramer and Goode are not speaking about this, they can't be taken seriously.

This website focuses on the “Message” that was delivered by the “Blue Avians” - 1 of 5 beings: the Orb Beings, the Blue Avians, the Golden Triangle-Headed Beings and two others who have not revealed themselves to us yet. The "Orb Beings" have been visiting “Many Tens of Thousands” of people in the form of “Blue/Indigo Balls of Light” while others have been visited by the “Blue Avians” and given a “Greeting Phrase” to know one another by.

Even after all the years I've been reading here searching for the gems that pop up now and then, I'm floored that anyone would give even the tiniest bit of credibility or any of their time, let alone money to reading garbage like this.

It's always the same pattern with these charlatans in my opinion.

- A message to make the intended targets feel like part of some special group with secret knowledge.
- Then the real game which is to trick them off their wallets.
- Then once they are invested, their pride won't let them admit they were taken advantage of, giving them a team of people who are willingly spreading the message and pitching others to buy in.

Corey Goode is a liar. It does make a good read. He and that guy Capt. Kaye are both full of it. I do however believe in breakaway human civilizations. Just not what these two guys say. Both have memories erased but got them back. Goode was in the military but was a specialist E4 which is below the rank of Sergeant. He wasnt anything special at all. These guys are compleat liars. I do enjoy the pictures of the blue aloen bird humanoids though.

originally posted by: Neill887
I don't trust Randy Cramer and Corey Goode since they haven't really spoken a word about the Greys.

We know from multiple researchers that there is an ongoing abduction program. The small greys are the worker bees, the large greys are the overseeers and then there's Mantis type beings that are higher up in the chain again.

Researcher professor David Jacobs and others have found that the goal of the abductions is a hybrid program and Jacobs has also found that the hybrids are integrating into our society at least since 2003 and abductees are being trained for some future event where they have to assist when the masses panic.

Why are these guys not talking about this subject? The most important question to be answered right now is what is the purpose of the hybrid program? As long as Cramer and Goode are not speaking about this, they can't be taken seriously.

enough already,

I have read this post, word for word in two other threads.

If these clowns start talking about greys they somehow become more credible and can be taken seriously, just for speaking about greys?

originally posted by: tigertatzen
I have never even heard of this guy before now...or his coffee mugs for that matter.

They keep hot things hot through the use of suppressed technology.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale

If these clowns start talking about greys they somehow become more credible and can be taken seriously, just for speaking about greys?

Lol, I never said they could then be taken seriously. You're reading what you want to read.

originally posted by: Neill887

originally posted by: InhaleExhale

If these clowns start talking about greys they somehow become more credible and can be taken seriously, just for speaking about greys?

Lol, I never said they could then be taken seriously. You're reading what you want to read.

Your criteria for being taken seriously or trusting them was talking about the Greys.

I don't trust Randy Cramer and Corey Goode since they haven't really spoken a word about the Greys.

But now you are saying that you still wouldn't trust them? Then you bring Jacobs into the mix as someone who CAN be taken seriously? Thats like saying don't take Larry and Moe seriously but Curly knew exactly what he was saying. Actually Jacobs looks more like Larry, but you get the idea..

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian


Your criteria for being taken seriously or trusting them was talking about the Greys.

I don't trust Randy Cramer and Corey Goode since they haven't really spoken a word about the Greys.

But now you are saying that you still wouldn't trust them? Then you bring Jacobs into the mix as someone who CAN be taken seriously? Thats like saying don't take Larry and Moe seriously but Curly knew exactly what he was saying. Actually Jacobs looks more like Larry, but you get the idea..

I don't trust Cramer and Goode because they're not discussing the Greys and their abductions. If they would be discussing the Greys and the abductions, I would still be on the fence when it comes to the totality of their claims. If they would be talking about Greys, that doesn't suddenly mean I trust them completely and believe their stories of Mars-bases, Blue Avians, time travel and so on. Especially Goode seems to know a lot about everything that's happening to Earth, but he doesn't talk about the Greys and that's just my main red flag.

I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say.

And Jacobs has at least shown that he has been doing research and that he has come to his conclusions after decades of research and hundreds of regressions. The same goes for John E. Mack, who has actually spend a lot of time doing actual research into the phenomenon.

Goode and Cramer are just telling stories. And to be honest, I like their stories but you can't put their stories on par with actual research that has been done into the abduction phenomenon.

I.completely outed both Corey Goode and David Wilcock tonight for the liars they are and was verbally attacked and blocked by them on Facebook. It appears Corey stole his fantasis directly, word for word, from the novels written by these guys in 2011.
He even appears to have stolen their penname as his own fake name and used their middle initials to form the basis for his "Sphere Alliance." Check it out yourself.

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a reply to: Brandon72

In order to out someone wouldn't they have to be "in" to begin with?

originally posted by: Neill887

originally posted by: InhaleExhale

If these clowns start talking about greys they somehow become more credible and can be taken seriously, just for speaking about greys?

Lol, I never said they could then be taken seriously. You're reading what you want to read.

Yes I am reading your words, Yes I wanted to read them as this thread is amusing and reading the posts of people is what allows to respond with statements of my own or questions as I have done with you.

Not sure whats funny "Lol". about asking what I did, you have posted it in 3 threads that I have come across word for word so I wanted to get clarification if that is the only reason you wouldn't take them seriously and if they did speak about greys that you would for that alone.

a reply to: Neill887

And Jacobs has at least shown that he has been doing research and that he has come to his conclusions after decades of research and hundreds of regressions. The same goes for John E. Mack, who has actually spend a lot of time doing actual research into the phenomenon.

Have you personally inspected Jacob's work? Listened to his unedited "regression" sessions? Sent him panties for "DNA testing"? No, he is just as much a con artist as these guys. Mack may be the only legitimate name mentioned, unfortunately "recovered memories from regression" has been shown to be a false assumption. Sure it was all the rage in the 80s and 90s in psychology but the same field that promoted it as a memory recovery technique has now shown it to be useless for that.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Neill887

And Jacobs has at least shown that he has been doing research and that he has come to his conclusions after decades of research and hundreds of regressions. The same goes for John E. Mack, who has actually spend a lot of time doing actual research into the phenomenon.

Have you personally inspected Jacob's work? Listened to his unedited "regression" sessions? Sent him panties for "DNA testing"? No, he is just as much a con artist as these guys. Mack may be the only legitimate name mentioned, unfortunately "recovered memories from regression" has been shown to be a false assumption. Sure it was all the rage in the 80s and 90s in psychology but the same field that promoted it as a memory recovery technique has now shown it to be useless for that.

I hope Jacobs' is a con artist. But please help me out here. I've heard a number of claims about Jacobs, but I haven't been able to find any good information concerning those claims.

All I'm finding is a lot of questionable websites making claims about Jacobs without any valid references.

Do you have an interview in which Jacobs' talks about panties?

And I know Jacobs' himself admits that hypnotic regression is a difficult tool and that it also took him some time to get good at it. He admits that in the beginning it was hard to get around not asking leading questions. He admits that it was trial and error at first and that he had to train himself.

When I hear and see Jacobs' speak, I see a calm and intelligent down to earth person. And so far the criticisms on Jacobs have been of lesser quality than what Jacobs' himself has been saying.

Please, when you talk about Jacobs' collecting panties give me a good source.

a reply to: Neill887

Please, when you talk about Jacobs' collecting panties give me a good source

Yeah, ...it's a known fact and I'm not getting into it anymore. Do a search here, I am sure there will be references....even the audio. Good luck.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Neill887

Please, when you talk about Jacobs' collecting panties give me a good source

Yeah, ...it's a known fact and I'm not getting into it anymore. Do a search here, I am sure there will be references....even the audio. Good luck.

I have searched and I'm not able to find anything convincing. I did find an ATS thread from 2012 in which you were saying the same things but also then you were just saying things and not providing any good links. In that thread you also said that the information is out there to be found.

I don't want to get into a yes or no discussion. I want to be educated. I'm open to the possibility of Jacobs' being an idiot or whatever, but please help me here by providing some proper information.

a reply to: Neill887
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