originally posted by: TheLamb
This is something I thought I should share. I apologise in advance if it upsets any Catholics.
I'm not a Catholic, but I've spent a lot of time grappling with the meaning of Revelation.
Firstly, the beast from the sea is echoing the beasts which rise from the sea in Daniel ch11.
The animal body parts are taken directly from Daniel.
The Daniel beasts represent political states, which implies that the Revelation ch13 beast is a state or series of states.
The beast will have authority for 42 months ... the number of years between the pope's ordination as a priest and his crowning pope.
But that interval is not "having authority for forty-two months". What you're describing is "forty-two [months] and THEN having authority".
If Francis is going to be the beast, he must be Pope
for forty-two months, however that is interpreted.
And the second beast in Revelation ch13 is evidently operating at the same time as the first.
I see it as a relationship similar to the relationship between Hitler and the Nazi state; Hitler was the one with a tongue demanding "worship" of the
state he had created.
"666" calculations have no value as a pointer, because there are so many thousands of different results that they all cancel one another out.
The Pope has no control over the dollar.
Name-and-number coincidences of the kind you point out can be created easily enough by anyone who is determined to reach that result, which, again,
destroys their value as pointers.
Incidentally, all attempts to identify the papacy with the "beast" run into the problem of identifying the harlot of Babylon.
The "Harlot" initially rests on the beast, and is later destroyed by the beast.
It is traditional to identify the Harlot with "Rome" or the papacy, but the papacy CANNOT be both harlot and beast, according to the terms of ch17.
Choose one or the other (or neither).
edit on 28-9-2015 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)