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Man most likely evolved from a Virus

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posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 10:43 PM
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It seems nowhere in Primatology or Anthropology we find the missing link to Human Evolution, Yet Virus Evolution can be witnessed frequently, if not daily in Science. Then you have Insect species that infect other insect species with Viruses that changes their genome, like the Parasitic Wasp www.livescience.com...

Could it be fair to say that knowing viruses have the ability to intelligently alter Dna in other Species and themselves Evolve, the most probable missing link to human evolution from Apes, was actually caused by a virus contracted by an Ape Species through an insect bite that carried a DNA Altering Virus?

Personally i believe all life was generated through virus procreation initially, and that's where the beginning of evolution began and continues


Whats your take on it? Something to look into anyway. I'll write my PHD on it..Lol




posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: SPECULUM

Sure a virus found on the end of a speculum no doubt! That is as good a theory as any!



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: SPECULUM

How about we suggest that we evolved from primates with a dose of the God-given cosmic AIDS virus..........that's all the bases covered and suits my doom porn fetish at the same time.



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:31 PM
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My biology is a bit rusty, but a virus is not alive is it? I don't think life can evolve from something that is not life.

One of the prerequisites of life is the ability to procreate. Viruses cannot procreate on their own; they use living cells to reprogram the dna/rna and have the cells themselves create new copies.

However, if I get your drift, a virus could have been the cause of a mutation that led to a species evolving because if it. That's possible and probable.



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:34 PM
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So Agent Smith was right.

K~



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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It seems nowhere in Primatology or Anthropology we find the missing link to Human Evolution, Yet Virus Evolution can be witnessed frequently,


Is macro evolution witnessed frequently?

I hadn't heard.



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron
My biology is a bit rusty, but a virus is not alive is it? I don't think life can evolve from something that is not life.

One of the prerequisites of life is the ability to procreate. Viruses cannot procreate on their own; they use living cells to reprogram the dna/rna and have the cells themselves create new copies.

However, if I get your drift, a virus could have been the cause of a mutation that led to a species evolving because if it. That's possible and probable.


Getting my drift is the important part..Here's an interesting Correlation to my Hypothesis, and clears up your beginning statement some.. www.scientificamerican.com...



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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We can see the mid-point between apes and the hominids in the fossil of Lucy. Virus particles do not change one species into another.
a reply to: SPECULUM



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM
It seems nowhere in Primatology or Anthropology we find the missing link to Human Evolution, Yet Virus Evolution can be witnessed frequently, if not daily in Science. Then you have Insect species that infect other insect species with Viruses that changes their genome, like the Parasitic Wasp www.livescience.com...

Could it be fair to say that knowing viruses have the ability to intelligently alter Dna in other Species and themselves Evolve, the most probable missing link to human evolution from Apes, was actually caused by a virus contracted by an Ape Species through an insect bite that carried a DNA Altering Virus?

Personally i believe all life was generated through virus procreation initially, and that's where the beginning of evolution began and continues


Whats your take on it? Something to look into anyway. I'll write my PHD on it..Lol


Viruses? Absolutely. Even light evolves us. We know it interacts and affects our Dna and were exposed to and endless amount of differing frequencies on a daily basis!



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: Parthin96
We can see the mid-point between apes and the hominids in the fossil of Lucy. Virus particles do not change one species into another.
a reply to: SPECULUM

Well, this is where that thought is most likely incorrect, as Science begins to more understand the roll that viruses play on all Life

www.scientificamerican.com...



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 01:12 AM
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I could be wrong but don't you mean bacteria not virus?



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 01:52 AM
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I wouldn't say 'intelligently' but scientists agree that viruses have had a role in our evolution by inserting their own DNA into our ancestors for hundreds of millions of years. They now comprise (aprox.) 8% of our DNA.

What's fascinating is that in some cases we have 'sequestered' a viral gene to help us: Syncytin (a protein made by one of those captured genes) originally allowed viruses to fuse host cells together to spread from one cell to another. Now we use it to allow babies to fuse to their mothers. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Evolution at its best.



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 02:05 AM
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What's next, pond scum?
Wouldn't that be abiogenesis?
Not to be confused with evolution?
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posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 02:15 AM
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Viruses are alive and thus life, just like bacteria and micro-organisms are.

But not any virus have ever evolved from virus to any form of advanced life like fish, or mammals.

There is no missing link. The so called missing data that would explain everything to fit the atheist version of existence cannot be found, because if it were to be accepted, would crush the foundation of how everything came into existence, and that disqualifies 80% of the Atheist inspired version of existence. So, we just call it "The missing link" LOL

Viruses and micro organisms do not have certain materials nor the ability to produce them in order to evolve into a human, or an ape. Never happened, and never will.



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 02:22 AM
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I am pretty sure that is accurate, man coming from a virii.

As in high school, I am sure all the females had the antivirus installed. At least in my case, ended up in quarantine more than once.



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 03:11 AM
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To be 'alive' a virus would have to satisfy more than 'reproduction' classification of 'lifeform'. It would have to respire, excrete, move, have 'senses', grow and require nutrition. However, all that viruses do is 'reproduce'.

So what is a virus?

Quite possibly it is not what we are being told to think it is?


edit on 22-9-2015 by Elliot because: grammar



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 03:33 AM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: SPECULUM

I wouldn't say 'intelligently' but scientists agree that viruses have had a role in our evolution by inserting their own DNA into our ancestors for hundreds of millions of years. They now comprise (aprox.) 8% of our DNA.

What's fascinating is that in some cases we have 'sequestered' a viral gene to help us: Syncytin (a protein made by one of those captured genes) originally allowed viruses to fuse host cells together to spread from one cell to another. Now we use it to allow babies to fuse to their mothers. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Evolution at its best.


O.o

how did people give birth before the virus DNA was apart of us if thats whats responsible for mothers and children to be attached in the womb?



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: Elliot

A virus is not "alive," but it's not "dead" either. It's made using parts only found in life. It contains only RNA, which allows it to utilize living cells for protein synthesis, but it doesn't contain anything else, like enzymes and mitochondria. Once it infects a living cell, it turns it into a little zombie pumping out whatever the virus coded to create.

Several of our own natural processes originated from cells being infected by a virus. Evolution found that certain proteins viruses created were very beneficial for us, and boom - we start creating them without being infected.

Viruses also infect bacteria, which provide some benefits to the bacteria. Long after the virus is gone, bacteria continue to colonize using the segments of RNA that the virus infected them with - sometimes this is vice-versa.
There are some types of antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria that exist because a virus replicated within a microbe, and it accidentally mutated it's own genome with parts of the microbe.

This explains how some drug-resistant viruses - MRSA for example - become wide-spread. The bacteria can be quarantined and eradicated, but a mutated virus that escaped can pass this mutation to other bacteria.

This all can be learned from any introductory microbiology course.



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: Raevynn

"Danger Live Virus samples enclosed"

I have seen labels in bio labs that are just like this, so, apparently the government and professionally credentialed types sure think Virus's are living.
Does it have to be advanced like mammals to be considered life? Not to people who work with them.

They use live virus to make vaccines also, at least that is what they say



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 04:31 AM
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originally posted by: Belcastro

O.o

how did people give birth before the virus DNA was apart of us if thats whats responsible for mothers and children to be attached in the womb?


That was hundreds of millions before us, in fact syncytin has been found in other mammalians (like cats and dogs for example, which shows the virus infected a shared ancestor).

Scientists now think this retrovirus facilitated the evolution of mammalian placenta, which, as we know, protects the embryo from the mother's immune system and allows it to feed of its mother. By the time the placenta evolved there were many retroviruses that had integrated to the genomes of those earlier ancestors. One of those genes produces syncytin which has been shown to play an essential role in placental development.

In simple words: an accidental infection of an ancestor by a virus was responsible for the evolution of a new mechanism of reproduction, which ended in a placental mammals... including us.

Isn't that just amazing?


Two articles regarding the above:
www.sciencedirect.com...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
edit on 22-9-2015 by Agartha because: SPAG!!



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