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Yes but they don't give DNA. Do they?
please take into account all the water frozen having flooded the world when carbon dating
Can I ask what religion you where from, just asking.
And why would global flood be impossible, wait before we do this in a evolution vs creation page should I creat a new one or is that for the high ups?
Oh and when finding earliest dog fossils or wolf etc, please take into account all the water frozen having flooded the world when carbon dating
originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: hudsonhawk69
So if we witness small changes accumulating to become a new species, why couldn't those changes keep adding up?
Your understanding of genetic mutations is off. There are no exempt genes. This means a genetic code change could affect any part of any organism each time it happens. You guys create this imaginary barrier, but still have not yet explained what it is or why it exists. You make arbitrary unproven statements like "No matter how much the genes mutate it will still be a fruit fly."
How do you know this?
What part of the fruit fly is not subject to mutation?
Your claim that it only has genetic material for a fruit fly is dead wrong, because genetic mutations CHANGE that genetic material (which is a code).
1. Natural Environment Byles's first condition is: "Natural selection must be inconsequential at the locus or loci under investigation." This is because natural selection tends to work against fixation of mutations--in other words, it tends to prevent their becoming a permanent part of the gene pool of a population. Natural selection keeps things stable rather than helping them to change. B. Clarke points out that even so-called advantageous mutations are harmful in that, because of increased competition, they can reduce population size, making their fixation nearly impossible. He adds that they will almost certainly lead to extinction of the mutant gene or organism, and possibly even the entire population. 2 The effect of Byles's first condition is that the environment must be selectively neutral, or else the mutant gene will never be retained in the population, preventing even slight change. But according to J.T. Giesel, most locations are almost certainly not selectively neutral. 3 Thus, in the vast majority of cases, Byles's first condition will not be met.
The computer chip example is wrong because the programming does not change the physical chip itself each time the code is changed. Plus the chip was coded for a specific purpose. Genetic mutations are not. They are usually random. The chip is limited, DNA is not, there are billions of base pairs and potential code combinations.
Can you describe and present evidence for the mechanism that stops genetic differences in populations from accumulating to the point of speciation?
PSA: This is not a thread for discussing any other aspect of creationism or evolution, it's a thread that's asking a very specific question so please do not derail this thread by dragging the discussion away from the topic outlined above.
enzymes stop mutations from happening and remove them over generations
So we know that some mutations like cancer are not stop by this
So to answer a question with a question, which is needed to carry on, what makes the cells/ genomes "security" fail.
Ok so the generations thing, well let's think about this. How long is one generation in terms of what we are speaking ( average ) and how long has dogs been around ( by dogs been around I mean created but you may take this as " evolved " if you don't believe in itelligent design ) so if we answer this I can start to either come up with an answer or prove it wrong ( controversial )
Yes and no, yes to I believe in biblical flood and no to that's all I was meaning which was your real question.
There is many accounts of a goal flood in most cultures
and also theory's of a extra layer in our atmosphere that contained water, this fell or was destroyed and the water is now on earth. If you read bible or not you can look at this and take it not as a plain biblical matter, this atmosphere would have kept dinosaur climates etc running if proved true.
Ok so what I was saying is enzymes repair the DNA, so do they not stop damage turning to mutations,
any way the cancer thing was to show that some mutations do have consequences like cancer that get past,
and the last part I couldn't read what it said.