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18 CEOs Called Out By Bernie Sanders

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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: mOjOm
Who else will you be choosing BTW???


Rand Paul, though I have warmed to Ben Carson as well.

I want a candidate with the balls to make EVERYONE pay into the game. Having 48% of society in negative tax range while the other 52% of us subsidize and support them IS NOT working for me at all. Sanders loves to piss and whine about corporate America... well, warts and all the top 1% is funding 45% of the US' budget while the bottom 47% are accounting for money being spent out of that budget. Positive is always greater than negative. Until America patches the holes in the bottom of the bucket, we're wasting the water going into the bucket and it makes no sense to keep trying to fill it.


Before we went "Free Trade" with Communist China, most Americans did pay because they made enough to pay.
In this Corporate Globalist Utopia, it is a race to the bottom except for the Multinational Corporations.

When everyone is broke from Corporate Greed, who the heck do you think should pay?
They burn down the house from their policies and then point the finger at people that had no say in our economic policies?

If everyone has to pay, then give everyone a SAY as well in our Economic Policies.

I'd start cutting off Trade with Communist and Third World Countries.

Watch the Crony Capitalists Howl then!




posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

Since you are supporting a socialist, I assumed you were a socialist, my apologies.

Yes, tariffs are proto-socialist as well as mercantilist.

Primarily though, they are anti-free market.


Bernie can call himself whatever he likes.
I'll be voting for him not by his dam label but by his voting history and what he intends to do.

Unless you know of another candidate that intends to boot out the Crony Capitalists in DC?



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

So you're worried about everyone paying their fair share yet you don't choose the only guy running who is not bought by big business and the elite.

Well, not including Trump maybe since he has his own money.

Carson is so bought and paid for right along with Rand Paul it's not funny.

That doesn't even make any sense, but whatever.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

Since you are supporting a socialist, I assumed you were a socialist, my apologies.

Yes, tariffs are proto-socialist as well as mercantilist.

Primarily though, they are anti-free market.


If we are going after anti Free Market Practices, then don't you think tariffs are the least of our concerns?

www.opensecrets.org...

Misc Business $6,475,074,239
Health $6,382,737,984
Finance/Insur/RealEst $6,361,287,751
Communic/Electronics $5,206,690,371
Energy/Nat Resource $4,706,049,338
Other $3,350,694,508
Transportation $3,219,680,597
Ideology/Single-Issue $2,073,159,556
Agribusiness $1,910,858,997
Defense $1,819,714,550
Construction $694,573,137
Labor $629,156,951
Lawyers & Lobbyists $429,259,405

These lobbyists are not donating to politicians out of their goodness of their hearts.
They want the market rigged to benefit them at the expense to the average American and Small Business.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

I want to cut all of it.

You seem to recognize that the problem is an unholy alliance between government and its cronies.

Lobbyists can only get preferential treatment because government is running rampant and wields power that is irresistible to anti-competitive monopolists.

Yet, you seem to be suggesting that granting more power to government will correct the problem.

It is counter intuitive.
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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Bernie is a Communist. He wants to destroy private industry and create a country where the Government provides for all of our needs. Once this happens people won't have any freedom left and Bernie and his cronies will have their totalitarian communist utopia. I don't want a Goverment that takes care of me. I want my freedom.


Nice avatar. Is that Joe McCarthy? you definitely sound like him.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: Virgil91

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Bernie is a Communist. He wants to destroy private industry and create a country where the Government provides for all of our needs. Once this happens people won't have any freedom left and Bernie and his cronies will have their totalitarian communist utopia. I don't want a Goverment that takes care of me. I want my freedom.


Nice avatar. Is that Joe McCarthy? you definitely sound like him.


Joe McCarthy was absolutely correct.

Witness by Whittaker Chambers

There are even still people who believe that the Rosenbergs were innocent.

This is astounding and very troubling.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: TheJourney

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: TheJourney

originally posted by: intrptr
"Calling them out", huh? Let me know when they get arrested.

Government knows what side their bread is buttered on.


Those companies butter sanders' bread huh? How bout looking into the source of his donations, and specifically who he DOESN'T take donations from.

I didn't say him exclusively. Nice twist. You go right on believing (or promoting) current government et al, has the peoples over big business interest at heart.

Can't get fooled again.



No, yet you said it in relation to the ONE candidate who doesn't take donations from big corporations like that, which is..odd, to say the least.

Even odder? It doesn't matter who's in the White House. But you already know that.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

Bernie is not a Communist.

You can keep typing that he is, but that doesn't change anything.
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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: Reallyfolks
No not like that at all I specifically said no on public financing, did you read what I posted or saw campaign finance reform and jumped to show he is doing something? Seems like the latter


This is what you said.


He really wants to help. Then he needs to push something along the lines of campaign finance reform.


So I provided you with his plan on Campaign Finance Reform. What did you expect, that his plan would match your plan???

Clearly you just want to b*tch about anything and everything and plan on doing it with a crap attitude toward me at the same time. So you can go argue with someone else now.

Granted you're probably a little upset because your little fit you're having about Sanders in this thread and the other one aren't working out the way you'd planned. Get over it.


And what was right after that? Again you conviently leave out portions of what some one posts in order to jump to Sanders defense or to only address specific sentences. Are you amusing yourself???

Here is what I said

He really wants to help. Then he needs to push something along the lines of campaign finance reform. Not public as I don't believe in it, and don't care if corporations are people. You push to establish like. a 25.00 limit per person for any candidate in a cycle and say a 50.00 for a corporation even bundling


What do you do , push Sanders reform for what???? Public financing. Again are you amusing yourself?
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Also not having a fit over any candidates running, certainly not one like trump or Sanders who have no chance of winning. Bush or Clinton, pick your poison.
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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm
Socialists often take up valid causes. Karl Marx supported Lincoln's anti slavery campaign. Does that make Marxism a good ideology? Nope. Neither does Bernie attacking corporate CEOs make his ideology a good thing. A good socialist will attack Capitalism in any way possible. However, they still use capitalist money to promote their agenda.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

Ya except we have crippling regulations on business and manufacturing and China doesn't



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

I want to cut all of it.

You seem to recognize that the problem is an unholy alliance between government and its cronies.

Lobbyists can only get preferential treatment because government is running rampant and wields power that is irresistible to anti-competitive monopolists.

Yet, you seem to be suggesting that granting more power to government will correct the problem.

It is counter intuitive.


Is the Government made up of small business and average American's

OR

Made up of people in a revolving door that hail from the Biggest Corporations and Banks in this Nation. Want me to make a list? It would fill up this thread and you know it.

Government would shrink with booting out the Crony Capitalists. It is THEY, that run to their pals in DC to hook them up and then sell it to the American People as if they are "helping them" Same with Obamacare , look at the health stocks soar.

We see it all the time via propaganda like in the case of the Iraq war. We were going to be greeted as liberators and have it paid for with oil. No one bothered to ask what Iraqis thought. I was in correspondence with one from Baghdad and he hated Saddam but knew the # storm that would develop from differing sects.

I would not trust the best and brightest and top talent in the top corporations in this country to shine my shoes because their policies rest not on what is best for people and countries but how they can make more money.

I want Big Business nowhere near my government because they have shown to Fail miserably when it comes to dealing with humanitarian issues.
It is always, how can we make a buck from this type solutions.
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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

Government will shrink when we take away its authority, funding and power, not before.

Having been diminished in its ability to molest and interfere with private commerce, cronies will have no overlord to support them.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: jacobe001

Ya except we have crippling regulations on business and manufacturing and China doesn't



Well, most current regulations were crafted by Corporate Lobbyists to kill their competition, but I am sure you knew that.

Older regulations were created for the safety of the public and work just fine.
I am sure many citizens are screaming in China for them now after several explosions from Chemical Factories leveled buildings for blocks and killed many. Profits before People is more important to some.

I want protection from people that put profits first over people.
Would you rather disband government altogether and settle matters the old fashion way when you pollute my air or blow up buildings in my city?



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

Government will shrink when we take away its authority, funding and power, not before.

Having been diminished in its ability to molest and interfere with private commerce, cronies will have no overlord to support them.


Big Business is shoveling record amounts of money toward their fellow corporatists in DC and shows no sign of slowing down.
Big Business loves Big Government, because it takes a Big Government to serve them

Good Luck with that



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: jacobe001

Ya except we have crippling regulations on business and manufacturing and China doesn't



That is changing in China when Profits first Corporations blow up people and buildings
There have to be consequences.
Time for the Crony Capitalists to run to another country like Africa to find people to exploit.

Tianjin explosion could be a turning point in China’s corruption crackdown

theconversation.com...



It is therefore likely that there will be a significant increase in costs across numerous industries – not just chemicals storage. We can expect to see more complicated inspection procedures being applied to prevent future catastrophes from taking place.

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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 08:00 PM
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Am I somehow failing to communicate that I want government to shrink and, therefore, be unable to grant privileges to insiders?

I get the distinct impression that you want to argue but, I think we agree on the problem, just not the solution.

The "good luck" comment isn't what I would have expected from someone who seriously desires the elimination of cronyism.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

It meant passing economic policies beneficial to ALL in this nation and not just the few wealthy elite.


There is no economic policy beneficial to all. All policy requires an enforcer. But the enforcement group is made up of individuals. All individuals can be influenced, fooled, bought, overruled, or killed. The enforcement group will always be controlled by the wealthiest and most powerful sector of society. Policy is the life blood of cronyism.

Another reason that economic policy will not work is that no one knows what causes entrepreneurship, innovation and invention. All regulation decreases freedom of action and brakes economic and cultural growth.

The total absence of an economic policy is the only way to make them compete.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: greencmp


If you want to coax productive commerce back to our shores, demonizing them and chastising them hardly seems productive.


No?

Well. Perhaps.....
but....WAIT!!

How about prosecuting them and shaming them publicly by stripping them of their titles and their ill-gotten wealth?

Yes. That's the answer, I think. Like ICELAND did.
And though my tone is flippant, I totally think they need to be prosecuted and stripped of their titles and their ill-gotten weath. And even better, their freedom. Not being sarcastic.

Coddling them is ridiculous, and a proven fail.



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