Do you feel like human warmth is drying up and disappearing?

I was just watching the following video and an incredible feeling of sadness and loss struck me. I was reminded of how I feel like human warmth is drying up and disappearing. I remember how things were 30 years ago. There was much more vigor, personality, caring, and warmth in humanity back then as opposed to now. You can see it in old films and other video footage as well as old pictures in my opinion.

I think we can blame technology and come up with theories for why it's happening but for me this is a very hard reality to face. I feel like humanity's soul is dying.


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a reply to: Profusion

Everybody seems to remember things 30 years before as better and with warmer people.

Since it's impossible for that to be true for people of all generations, do you think maybe people have more difficulty seeing the warmth and kindness in people as they get older?

I've discovered as I get older that it is the people my age who seem to grow cold and the younger generations are very much like we were at that age; full of expression and warmth. Also, like every generation of youth, the older people don't see the next generation's true face and pop-culture drowns it out with youth stereotypes.

It makes sense when you remind yourself that we are moving farther away from our innocence and childhood the older we get so it is us that is looking through different, more jaded lenses.

Yes, it seems. But I am not sure. In my 60's now and when I was a kid there were a lot of taboos, on a daily basis. Things you did not talk about. Abuse, rape, homosexuality, "out of wedlock" pregnancies, then came Viet Nam and everything changed. Maybe the reason you notice 30 yrs ago is because the boomers are raising their children in a different way. For most of us our punishments were razor straps or belts. That is why Dr Spock became famous, boomers looking for a different way. I am not saying it was a better way.

a reply to: Profusion

I totally disagree.

Yes, its true that life has changed dramatically, and that governments seem increasingly indifferent to the plight of the people over whom they govern. But in terms of the way people relate to one another in my life? I could not be a luckier guy. My family and I have a great relationship, I have people in my flesh life, and my digital life, about whom I care a great deal, and care about me.

Sure, people might be necessarily more concerned with their own goings on than they used to be, but that is hardly surprising given the stresses placed upon us by the demands of ever growing working hours, and ever shrinking wages in real terms, not to mention financial issues caused by the failure of banks and governments alike to secure our hard earned money correctly.

But I can stand out front of the store I work in, having a cigarette and a cup of tea, and people say good morning, and stop and chat. If anything, the sense of community around here, although not cloying, is palpable, always there in the background. Where I live is an end of the line town, where, for better or worse, and often worse to tell the truth of it, everyone knows everyone a little bit, many of us have lived here all our lives, and those who haven't settle in, or sod off in short order. Its a crap community, but it is a community!

I went out for a mates birthday on Saturday night. It was a good night, warm by my standards, cold by others. A lass I had never met called Katy was there that night, and became very cold in the light breeze when waiting for a taxi. I put my battle jacket on her. I have plenty of human warmth of my own after all, and since some of it remained in my jacket, Katy ended up comfortable, until the taxi arrived at least!

The thing is, it will never die, as long as just one of us carries some around with us. Despite everything, I refuse to stop carrying mine, and sharing it wherever I can. It makes the world suck a bit less every time I share it, so I recommend doing it as much as possible!

like i've said before, i blame the internet, your suspicions are true, i've said this before on ATS and other websites (i'm trying really hard to be that crazy old guy in horror movies that knows the truth but nobody believes him until it's too late)

If you see how most people behave online, it's for the most part a sea of angry, offensive, antagonizing comments, i'm sure you've seen a youtube comment section or two, so you know the drill.
this whole internet thing was meant to bring everyone close together, and share experiences, but what it boils down to 95% of the time is that you get to attack people on the other side of the world because they hold a slightly different preference of view than your own.
And the more we use this technology, the more certain behaviours leak into the real world.

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: Profusion
Everybody seems to remember things 30 years before as better and with warmer people.

Since it's impossible for that to be true for people of all generations, do you think maybe people have more difficulty seeing the warmth and kindness in people as they get older?

The emboldened part of the quote above is definitely possible. If the human race is steadily devolving overall, we would expect people from every generation to perceive what you described. And yes, that can easily be absolute truth. I think the following video is a clear example of how real the steady devolution of humanity is. Sure, it's just one example but I think it's striking and it illustrates the point well.


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It seems to me that it's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss the scientific reasons why this could be happening. I believe all of the things in my list below have just been proliferated for the first time in the last 100 years or so. That would be a possible explanation for the devolution I see seemingly coinciding with that time period, at least in my estimation.

The information in this post taken in conjunction (together with other related and similar issues) could explain all of the devolution in humanity that I believe is happening.

1. Fluoride in drinking water

2. The proliferation of GMO foods

3. Radiation poisoning from bomb testing and nuclear power plants leaking radiation both from accidents and normal use

4. The proliferation of TV, the Internet, video games, pornography (none of this is necessarily bad but I think that it has a bad effect overall)

5. The proliferation of prescription drugs that potentially damage people's health and consciousness

6. The proliferation of vaccines that potentially damage people's health and consciousness

7. Chemtrails and other poisons constantly being dumped into the environment

8. The proliferation of mobile phones that potentially damage people's health and consciousness

There are other such factors but here's some more that I think are pertinent to this discussion. The following quote is from "Revelations of an Elite family Insider" and while I don't endorse everything in the following document by any means, I believe that the quoted part below is correct.

It would explain a lot of the devolving that I'm proposing is happening as the list above does too I believe.

Q:
What are the foods etc that are used to control us? Is there anything we should and shouldn´t concume that would help us to see the reality more clearly? What constitutes "temperance"? - is it moderation inall things or more than that?

A:
See above for the food part. It is 1 part of the manipulation, it is used in combination with 6 other methods of control in your daily life.

If you can "delete" a few from your life or have less exposure to them, the effect will reduce dramatically, but this is not what will make you more self-conscious. These methods are used to wear you out, lower your quality of life. They are interlinked. The methods are:

1. Food and drinks
2. Medication, "Health care" (include vitamins)
3. Electrical waves (including your PC and cellphone, house electr. network, everything chipped)
4. Media, be it TV-radio-newspapers-magazines-internet (the most obvious method, yet the most enslaving)
5. Music, Sounds (different method than media, used in a different way although most times through the media)
6. Air pollution
7. Education system (including known literature which is mostly corrupt, be it history,psychology, metapsychology, "philosophy", art, science, poetry, religion, even fairy tales told to infants).

Politics takes these methods and bombard you with this every day and make sure they are maintained.
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One could go deeper into science and even go further than that to understand all this. I'm not saying the following article is perfect but toxoplasmosis (or something similar) could be a serious part of all this too (just in terms of sticking with mainstream science).

Archons And Mind Parasites And Extremophiles, Oh My!
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No, actually the opposite. There is more compassion, more freedom, more human rights, etc.

a reply to: Profusion

I have traveled a bit of the world and what I have concluded is that nations with a "higher standard of living" have fostered more detached generations.

When I travel countries that are less developed where there are less homes with TVs I have found a more outgoing and involved population. So much so that it feels like stepping back in time. Just my opinion.

I have been thinking a lot about this over the years, would I like to live 30-40 years ago. Yes i would, because as I sit now and look back on what it was like it seems so safe, the reason it seems safe is because I know the history, i know what is going to happen and that is what makes "the good old days". Are we less caring now than 40 years ago ? I dont think so, 40 years ago we only had contact with a small group of people so it was easier to see the good things, now because of the internet we have contact with the world and its hard for us to see anything so we feel its less caring. One important thing has changed and that is because of the internet society has become more and more fragmented, people want to be important and to be the leaders of groups, the internet lets you set up your own group and no matter what it is you will find followers. The internet connects the world, destroys society. We do not care in the same way we did 40 years ago, but we do care in a different way now, and in another 40 years time we will care in a different way again

a reply to: Profusion

There used to be a middle ground when decent religions held for forefront. They muted the bad side and shielded the positive side even if they were not fully aware of the potential of that side.

This basic conflict of humanity with itself is fast coming to a head. It comes down to physical power, the power of the raised fist over that of pure consciousness. The physical side thrives because it includes technological weapons from clubs to nuclear bombs has been tapped to extremes across the raise of civilization. We all see it and know it...and revel in it. Many of us think that it is inevitable that we all perish by the sword/button. Such an end need not be the case.

You want peace, harmony, compassion and general love of self and neighbor? Think about the effects that the physical world, both iron-hard material things and your physical body, has upon how you interact in your daily life. Almost all of your actions are done in some manner of defense of property and life. Remember that old Peggy Lee song of decades ago, Is That All There Is...?

Ancient practices from the East clearly show the route that humanity must trod to learn to live with itself. But to get there is an individual's journey that can hardly be mandated by authority. (Religions spoke of it with high regard, but rarely, truly taught the manner of attainment.)

The way to freedom beyond the basic human needs and cravings is through meditation. It is as simple as that, but how many reading this will cuss their own trapped predicament but yet has little comprehension of what meditation is really, all, about? Countless times I've been told the exact same response: "Oh, I can't learn to meditate. I don't have the mind for it!" How self-demeaning and foolish of a statement. You want to feel alive in the Universe, maybe get to the One Source that gives all answers?

Yet, you can learn to meditate to the cows come home, as the old saying goes, and some fool can come along into your space and murder you without a qualm. So you must understand mediation is not a religious practice that will deliver you from evil. It will keep you from being evil. And enough of that can change the world.

a reply to: Aliensun

Perhaps for us to survive we must all be evil, its just the amount of evil that we each choose to be is what matters, if you choose to be good in a evil world you are destroyed without making anyone else good, but if you are less evil you can survive and help make the world a less evil place

a reply to: Profusion

Absolutely. There are forces in play that are intentionally eradicating the human condition. From imagination, to empathy, to the gut biome and extending to all natural functions of the human body.

Transhumanism is here and stock humans are being persecuted. The programmed sheep either don't notice or don't care. This is the last fight for humanity.

The situation today in the US... The average programmed sheep believes that an unborn fetus is dangerous and it literally owes them a huge debt. This debt is to be rendered in human flesh.

The fetus is officially classified as disease vector and must be subjected to 26 different injections of toxins and pathogens before being considered worthy of joining the "flock". Meanwhile these irrational attempts at attaining "safety" are taking us farther away from being human.

I tell you this. When the real pandemic comes you will want that natural immune system. Maybe that's the point?

a reply to: imod02

Evil is solely your choice. It is also your choice to make a difference or not.

originally posted by: imod02
a reply to: Aliensun

Perhaps for us to survive we must all be evil, its just the amount of evil that we each choose to be is what matters, if you choose to be good in a evil world you are destroyed without making anyone else good, but if you are less evil you can survive and help make the world a less evil place

you just don't get it.

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

What if evil is the norm, look at the history of this world up to this date seems to support it, are we basic evil, or are we basic good, the age old question

a reply to: Profusion

I disagree. 1980's Britain was a darker place than it is now.
Gay people were beaten up routinely and many folk wouldn't bat an eyelid about it, racism was rife, women were oppressed, even rape within marriage was not recognised in UK law until the 90's.

Then there was/is the ongoing revelations of mass child sexual abuse in 70's and 80's Britain, compared to the modern standards of efforts to safeguard children these days.

Nope, I say take those rose tinted history glasses off OP, the UK is a better place than it was 30 or 40 years ago.

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: Profusion

Everybody seems to remember things 30 years before as better and with warmer people.

Since it's impossible for that to be true for people of all generations, do you think maybe people have more difficulty seeing the warmth and kindness in people as they get older?

I've discovered as I get older that it is the people my age who seem to grow cold and the younger generations are very much like we were at that age; full of expression and warmth. Also, like every generation of youth, the older people don't see the next generation's true face and pop-culture drowns it out with youth stereotypes.

It makes sense when you remind yourself that we are moving farther away from our innocence and childhood the older we get so it is us that is looking through different, more jaded lenses.

Perfect answer! I was going to say something like this, but nowhere near as articulate. The only thing I'd add is that our moods also reflect the stuff we let in our minds & hearts. As in, focusing on stressful things makes us stressed; focusing on doom porn makes us paranoid; focusing on violence makes us see violence as a viable option, etc.

To further state your goal about youth being "full of expression and warmth", I'll leave a link to this 22 minute, 157 country video of Pharrel's song "Happy". It's hard to think of the world as an emotionally cold place when seeing random things like this.