Remember kids...nothing escapes a black hole..

Except enough matter to form whole star systems.
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The central black hole in an elliptical galaxy shoots out hot jets of gas that form clouds that envelope a galaxy, which researchers compared to our Earth's atmosphere.
This gas cools as it falls back into the centre, eventually reaching a temperature where it can 'clump together' and form stars.

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a reply to: Choice777

At least added some comment....geesh

We're made out of universal farts..

I feel less sad about everything now.

a reply to: Choice777

Technically that saying IS true. Nothing escapes a black hole. The quasars shot out of black holes are really just excess stuff clogging the drain being blasted away because there is no where else for it to go.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Puts a new twist on the term "nothing" doesn't it?

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Puts a new twist on the term "nothing" doesn't it?

Sure does! It's nothing unless it's excessive....Wait, what?

So...if nothing escapes a black hole, (except Hawking radiation??) -- where does it go?

The stuff in the accretion disk of material swirling around a black hole is not the black hole itself. The stuff in the accretion disk has not yet passed the event horizon -- and it is the event horizon that is the "point of no return" from which nothing escapes, NOT the accretion disk.

Put it this way: You could conceivably be in a spaceship that is swirling around in the accretion disk surrounding the black hole -- but that doesn't mean you can't escape. You could just fire up you spaceship's thrusters and theoretically fly off to safety. You would not have yet crossed the event horizon/point if no return.

The hot gasses coming from a black hole is due to the material in the accretion disk swirling around so fast.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
So...if nothing escapes a black hole, (except Hawking radiation??) -- where does it go?

Probably where Hawking is going.....

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You assume that you always have more power than that of the black hole. But the deeper into the swirl that you slide, the stronger the pull until you would need a power greater than that of the black hole's gravity. And that ain't gonna happen to any theoretical ship.

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Puts a new twist on the term "nothing" doesn't it?

No. It's just important to have a more precise definition of a black hole.

Nothing can escape a black hole. However, the area surrounding a black hole (outside the event horizon) is a very dynamic place that can feel the gravity of the black hole, but a still place from which "things" (as opposed to "nothing") can escape.

Inside the event horizon? that's a different story.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

According to Matthew M or you? You have experience in a black hole eh? I can't wait to hear this one....

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You assume that you always have more power than that of the black hole. But the deeper into the swirl that you slide, the stronger the pull until you would need a power greater than that of the black hole's gravity. And that ain't gonna happen to any theoretical ship.

Light and energy can escape from outside the event horizon. Infinite power is not necessary to do so.

EDIT TO ADD:
Put it this way: From what we know about black holes, If our sun suddenly turned into a black hole right now (with the same mass as the sun has now), Earth would still be gravitationally bound to it, just as it is now, but light and radio waves would still be able to be sent outward from earth in the opposite direction of the "black hole sun". In fact, we would still be able to shoot space probes such as Voyager and new Horizons out of the solar system -- even with that black hole in the middle of it.

The Earth and other planets would still be gravitationally bound (basically part of the accretion disk), but things could still escape.

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

According to Matthew M or you? You have experience in a black hole eh? I can't wait to hear this one....

No, but that's the going theories on black holes.

If we want to throw "going theories" out the window, then I suppose anyone could say anything -- so what would be the point of discussing them?

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Oh no, it just sounded like you were pretty confident in your event.....I was excited to hear it.....letdown...

originally posted by: Choice777
Except enough matter to form whole star systems.
www.dailymail.co.uk... es-grow.html

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The central black hole in an elliptical galaxy shoots out hot jets of gas that form clouds that envelope a galaxy, which researchers compared to our Earth's atmosphere.
This gas cools as it falls back into the centre, eventually reaching a temperature where it can 'clump together' and form stars.

''

That matter has not actually entered the black hole.

Whats happend is the mass has approached at a angle and speed to near the event horizon but flys off at near light speed before entry.

lol))

yep, way before event horizon matter being prepped for disintegration. Nuclei forces are being stripped and tossed aside right at its border. What ever goes in is going in its pristine form for further disintegration. A block where space-time is held together by energy type that perhaps kept it in similar manor prior to Big Bang is a black hole. Black holes have tendency to merge, right?
As to what happens next we can make an educated guess)))LOL

cheers

So basically the black hole acts like a big agitator that messes everything up. Like a runaway blender. So it means some stuff gets a slingshot effect and actually gets thrown far away, as far as the other side of the galaxy.
Do we have a percentage of what goes past the event horizon and what get slingshot ?
Also the event horizon...say it's like an actual edge on the ''black hole''..is the black hole and obviously it's event horizon about the shape of a sphere ?

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Puts a new twist on the term "nothing" doesn't it?

No. It's just important to have a more precise definition of a black hole.

Nothing can escape a black hole. However, the area surrounding a black hole (outside the event horizon) is a very dynamic place that can feel the gravity of the black hole, but a still place from which "things" (as opposed to "nothing") can escape.

Inside the event horizon? that's a different story.

You are correct on this one. The area surrounding a gravity well is called something like "space"...

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Light and energy can escape from outside the event horizon

Because it never was captured by the gravity well . Matter , energy has to enter the event horizon for that to happen.Light is merely "bent" by the gravity of a black hole outside the event horizon. Something like a prism.
The curious thing about the burst of energy constantly flowing from the center of the supermassive black holes at the center of all galaxies , is that the energy expelled would have to be traveling at greater than light speed to break out.