Mankind in our lifetimes will look nothing like it does today.

a reply to: Christosterone

Your opinion and you are entitled to it.

a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

You obviously see things far out.

Read my last post on the first page.

Am I a monster or a realistic type?

a reply to: johnwick

Unless you're intentionally wanting to start a flame war, you're going to have to add a little more.

What does your brother being able to dunk a basketball or your sister winning a bike race do for society? Why do those things win them the chance to reproduce? Will there be a dire need for basketball dunkers or long distance bike riders in the future?

I'm not rich or college educated, nor have I been on welfare as an adult, I have been a hard worker for over 20 years and I have been a contributor. I am also "the man" at work, meaning if someone needs help I am there, I am also the most liked at work, BUT, when I was a child my parents were on food stamps for awhile. I guess that means I shouldn't exist?

There are just too many variables for anything like this to be put into effect

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

Well i was considering a few things.

Johnwick is right even if I may not go to as extreme as him, such things need discussion no matter how distasteful. Doesnt mean they need implementation just discussing maturely.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

Well i was considering a few things.

Johnwick is right even if I may not go to as extreme as him, such things need discussion no matter how distasteful. Doesnt mean they need implementation just discussing maturely.

That is my point, I'm not saying what I said Is right or should happen.

But this conversation needs to take place, mainstream.

Humanity is about to hit a wall, at full steam.

We need to plan ahead and hit the breaks before, we break ourselves.

a reply to: johnwick

I think it would be better to implement a 1 child policy, like China did, for awhile. Forced sterilization would never be voluntary and would lead to a lot of bloodshed, in my opinion. (Imagine if your number came up and they came knocking on your door, I don't think many people would go without a fight)

Besides, I think onequestion had it right anyway. There is no reason we can't synthesize the resources we need. The entire problem as I see it too many people want to be "special", too many want to feel superior or have more than others. We need to step away from this division and realize that, in the long haul, what we have now doesn't matter to what we'll need tomorrow.

I hate to sound like a Star Trek nerd, but we need for people to pull together and work for the betterment of mankind than just themselves, but I don't see that happening unless there is some drastic measures or horrific tragedy. Either way, I don't think it's going to be too rosy in the near future

a reply to: mymymy

Well a more bloodless method would be to offer free life prolonging treatments in exchange for sterilization.

So live to 200 but forgo the right to reproduce.

I would take that deal.

a reply to: crazyewok

Yes, I would take that deal too

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

You obviously see things far out.

Read my last post on the first page.

Am I a monster or a realistic type?

Neither, you are a narcissistic d-bag who thinks one life should be on a different tier than others.

Nobody thinks you're "the man" besides you.

Wow, the sheer hopefulness in this thread is almost sad. It's pitiful, in a way that I can empathize with. You are all are so sure of yourselves, but in the end it's a vain wish. And there's more than just a tinge of selfishness.

It seems like many who believe this stuff are scientifically/technologically illiterate, but it doesn't stop you from preaching about "what's to come". I hate to break it to you, but immortality, FTL travel, all of that- it's fictional. Conjured up by desperately hopeful imaginations.

All I see right now is stagnation. All this marvelous technology you go on about will never happen. It's clear as day that we've already hit the peak, we are on the downward slope now. Decadence, stagnation, and then a crucible in fire, where your lives will be laid out and assayed like gold in the furnace. You'll face death just like every man before you. And then, rebirth, maybe. That's the greatest hope- a fresh start, a chance to do things right this time.

Sadly, neither you nor I will live to see it all.

a reply to: Talorc

Yea..... About that,

a reply to: TechniXcality

Like I said, your optimism is endearing, but it makes me sad. I really wish we could make these advances; I want it just as much as you. But there comes a time when a man has to ground himself in reality. Wishing won't save you, but pragmatism and practicality may.

In the end, it all comes down to simple mathematical equations. We won't make these advances. We'd far sooner design weaponized pathogens than the means to prolong our lives and alleviate suffering. Orbital nuclear strikes are a reality, but common folk ever leaving this planet is not. And therein lies the root of humanity's mire. We lack wisdom, plain and simple. Homo Sapiens is perhaps not the most fitting name for us.

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: edward777

Points made in this and explained in greater detail:
1) Reproduction will eventually be done in the laboratory rather than in the traditional way.
2) Nano-technology will enable people to expand lifespan and even alter their gender.
3) Robots will take over almost all low-skill jobs.
4) People will soon be able to go in and replace healthy limbs and organs with superior synthetic alternatives.

One can only marvel at the fact that the plagues several hundred years ago led to the development of the Industrial Revolution. In the last 100 years we have gone from Model T Fords, silent movies and in-home electricity being a recent development to being able to alter DNA in the lab, injecting tiny robot-like devices into the blood stream to fix blockages, being able to talk to anyone in the world on phones we carry in our pockets and drones for killing people our government labels as enemy. And we can expect radical changes in the next 20 years that will make our advancement since WW1 seem incredibly long and drawn out.

So will people accept these changes? Will we wind up with a Hunger Games society in which the average people carry on in a subsistence existence while the elite live in a super-tech and isolated society? What do you suppose the role of secret societies will be in this new technology...or is it really that new?

The singularity is coming, nothing short of an ELE(extinction level event ) can stop it.

If you can make it 20 or 30 more years, immortality can be yours.

Hopefully you are right - and hopefully not only the rich will be able to take advantage of such technologies. However, once they emerge I suspect the government will begin to impose all sorts of restrictions on personal liberty.

a reply to: edward777

Personally I don't think it will happen. I have a strange feeling that something will happen that will cause humanity to go back to Stone Age. The reality is our industrial civilization is becoming increasingly unstable. It won't be long before humanity will destroy it self to stone age.

originally posted by: rockintitz

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

You obviously see things far out.

Read my last post on the first page.

Am I a monster or a realistic type?

Neither, you are a narcissistic d-bag who thinks one life should be on a different tier than others.

Nobody thinks you're "the man" besides you.

Pretty much. He had some small measure of credibility until he started rambling about how he's "the man". That sort of killed the whole post. I just thought to myself "Wow, another clown who thinks he's a special snowflake".

When we have social lumpen advocating eugenics on an Internet forum, it seems pretty apparent that humanity is going nowhere anytime soon.

It's even more ironic that characters like "johnwick" don't realize that eugenics is already being practiced, and has been for decades, possibly centuries. He just fails to realize that he isn't let in on it, being an elite only in his own mind.

You'd better believe the real "elites" in this world are looking at people like "johnwick" and laughing at their naïveté.

originally posted by: rockintitz

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: johnwick

He's talking about a form of socialism to fostribute products goods and services that are no longer done by humans in an exchange for x amount of hours worked per week in order to maintain the system.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is dillusional.

We can sit here and talk about personal responsability all day but that doesn't mean a damn thing when humans are barely part of the process.

Not only can we stretch our resources incredibly thin now but we are and already should be able to synthesize the resources we need in the first place. Add that together with asteroid mining and bam humans not required.

You obviously see things far out.

Read my last post on the first page.

Am I a monster or a realistic type?

Neither, you are a narcissistic d-bag who thinks one life should be on a different tier than others.

Nobody thinks you're "the man" besides you.

but sadly that is not true, I have been rocketed into management in every single job I ever had.

And every single person that has ever met IRL , holds me I very high regards.

I am not your average man.

I still run the 18 year old kids into the ground at the local basketball court.

I am nearly 40.

Some of us are just born much better than others.

a reply to: edward777

What I think will happen is that the very rich will have access to a lot of technologies that the common person will not have access to. The synthetic organs, nano implants for longevity - these will probably be available to the rich. But who knows. The prices could come down, especially on older models.

It sounds like the poor will be out of luck with their jobs being replaced by robots. Once again, who knows - maybe the labor market will adjust and new jobs will open up.

a reply to: johnwick

but sadly that is not true, I have been rocketed into management in every single job I ever had. And every single person that has ever met IRL , holds me I very high regards. I am not your average man. I still run the 18 year old kids into the ground at the local basketball court. I am nearly 40. Some of us are just born much better than others

Wait a minute, if you're such a Demi-God that is so successful in everything you do and is so highly regarded by everybody, why start a thread on internet dating? www.abovetopsecret.com... Why are you even single? A man of your stature should be beating women off him with sticks. So you obviously have trouble with women, I'm guessing you may not be as top notch as you think you are

a reply to: johnwick



I also think I'm particularly awesome.

Not gonna suggest a culling though.