Let's assume Bernie wins...

If Bernie Saunders is what he seems to be, and got elected, he would be marginalized the same way Jimmy Carter was. He would be opposed by both parties behind the scenes and labeled ineffective. One term in office and then it will be time for the next Republican Ronald Reagan, who will be under the full control of intelligence agencies.

I like a lot of what Mr. Saunders says, but I'm just about out of "hope for change." I'll be suspicious of him until he's accused of being a racist and the MSM runs with it. Any old white man who will do the American people any good will be accused of being a racist.

It's the same for Donald Trump. He's alienating people from both parties. If he wins, he would have zero support from anyone in Government, and would find it very, very hard to get Congress or The Senate to pass anything he wants.

Bernie Sanders actually has the support of MANY people in Washington. As an independent, he's been able to culture the support of people on both sides of the aisle, and take the positions that matter to HIM, regardless of the official positions of either party.

He's got a LONG record of working with both parties on many major issues.

Far from being a lame duck President, personally, I think Bernie Sanders is the candidate most likely to BREAK the political gridlock in Washington.

Unless Joe Biden runs. Then all bets are off. Sanders and Biden have both spent DECADES building relationships with people on both sides of the aisle. Either one would have massive support from members of both parties.

a reply to: seagull

If the support came from us, wouldn't it be reflected in the representatives that we choose to. . . um. . . . represent us?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
The guy will be 75 years old at the time of the next election, he's not going to make it through the nomination process. Old people don't get young votes.

Ronald Reagan did, and was 72 when he ran for his second term. He won in a landslide across every major demographic.

Young people actually tend not to vote AT ALL.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: beezzer

Don't you think that's, perhaps, where we come in?

A President is only as effective as his support, or her support.

Without support, they're going to be ineffective.

He has one house of Congress, stalemated. Both Houses? He'll be able to get pretty much anything done.

Now if he has neither, which could very well happen this cycle. One party with the Oval Office, the other with both houses...

Where then does the support come from?

It comes from us. Where else is there?

It depends. The president doesn't need both houses of congress, they just need an opposition party that doesn't believe they have a mandate to grind everything to a halt.