Disturbing Trend Among Dems

a reply to: Moresby

I'd say this says more about 'facebook' aficiandos then democrats. Just saying.

Any way you look at it, it's going to be a blood match.

Any comments about Hillary will bring cries of sexism.

We'll see age-ism, racism, sexism, remarks about looks, weight, hair, skin tones, heritage, parentage, lineage.

No topic will remain long on issues.

Issues are a dead issue. We elect whomever has the most "likes" on Facebook or whomever is the coolest celebrity.

We've entered the age of the celebrity politician.

It's high school where the quarterback and the prom queen get elected.

Not the best or qualified people do.

We'll all go back and forth flinging verbal "poo" at one another with no quarter gained or lost.

No minds will be changed, no hearts will be won and no "side" will ever win.

Apologies about the rant.

a reply to: Moresby

I've noticed that people I'd describe as mainline Democrats, or liberals, are the first to criticize people for their physical appearance.

"They" also tend to criticize people who they *think* have lower intelligence.

Very common to argue from the "ivory tower", "academia", "Intelligentsia" complex.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Moresby

I'd say this says more about 'facebook' aficiandos then democrats. Just saying.

That's a very good point. And you could well be right.

I agree with much of what has been said here. One thing I might disagree with is including people who talk about Hillary's age with those who insult people based on looks. If they refer to Hillary's age in terms of her ability to lead and whether she is likely to withstand the rigors of the office, that is ok. It is a valid concern.

Ripping on people for looks is not just bad politics. It is about as immature and pathetic as an adult can get. I expect it from third graders, at least the ones who haven't learned how to play nice yet. There is no excuse for behavior like that from a sensible adult. Anyone who would resort to tactics and behavior like that should automatically be banned from public office as a matter of pure public service.

Meh! There must be another US election in the offing, presumably the reason for this thread. In truth I see no reason that Trump, should not make it to the white house lawn, without a divit being drawn...once he removes that 70's lady's welcome mat off his head.

I agree with most of the comments on here to. However I see the same insults from both parties the Dem and Republicans. It is sickening, and immature to say the lease. I see this as one big distraction, everyone is watching the right hand while the left hand is doing something else . It is a physiological distraction. Turn off the propaganda News media, it is they who incite most of this drivel. We have more important thing to worry about, like the open boarders, that are allowing terrorist to come in our country, the coming financial collapse, and the unemployment crises. We as a Nation need to stand up march to Washington and demand these criminals in our government to be removed as soon as possible. The corruption is overwhelming and in our faces. I could go on but you all get the drift.

originally posted by: Moresby

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Moresby

I'd say this says more about 'facebook' aficiandos then democrats. Just saying.

That's a very good point. And you could well be right.

You are seeing what you want to see for some obscure reason and ignoring the FB conservatives trashing in everyway possible their opponents; Including personal appearance.

Should I bring up the youtube Obama as Monkey videos?

How about Rush mocking Michael J Fox and Malia Obama for their appearance?

or this classic....

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There's plenty of trashy behavior from all sides and it's going to get worse, much worse....Let's keep score eh? What a creative diversion to keep us from looking at real problems.

I'm not a watcher of Jon Stewart. Does he regularly ridicule people's appearance?

There was a time when such comments were antithetical to Dems. I'm not going to say they weren't ever said. But they weren't socially acceptable the way they seem to be now.

But I imagine if they were frequently used by someone with the popularity of Stewart, they could become acceptable.

I don't watch Stewart, so I don't know if he makes such comments. Anyone care to enlighten me on this point?

Mean people are mean. Like minded mean people will like mean peoples' commentary on others physical appearance to make themselves feel better about themselves. It doesn't in my opinion have any party affiliation, not from what I've seen.

Perhaps, remove toxic friends from FB or make so you can't see them in your news feed if you want to put up with the repercussions of their hurt feelings. I personally remove those types of people from my friends. I don't want to be associated with them. My friends list hovers around 80 or so. Seems just right to get a good cross section of opinions that are not just downright mean.

How about the right wingers who assume all moochers are minorities, that when one person of a certain race or religion does something than all of that race /religion must assume responsibility for their actions.


The shooting, now of course it's not about guns it's about Muslims and their religion of hate, it's not like there are a billion other Muslims not killing Americans nor are they killing one another..I mean C'mon it's all of them that are out to get us..

Or how about when a black person does something wrong, I mean now we have to look at the entire community because they are all bad..

Or if one illegal does something, then of course there is an onslaught of murdering illegals coming over and killing Americans daily..

Yeah the right does nothing wrong nor are they racist..

originally posted by: links234
Your personal experience on Facebook is anecdotal, at best. It's less of a firm example of one political shade than it is an example of people you surround yourself with.

I've seen it online, and experience it In my own family. So I'd say the only thing anecdotal here is your experience of it, or lack thereof.

No, I haven't noticed such a thing among "democrats" in particular. Probably because this is an issue with people in general. People are uniformly callous and unapologetic, particularly when they have access to a detached and insulated platform like the Internet.

A trend I have noticed these days is rather more generalized, and rather more disturbing; that would be, society's inexorable descent into the "base ego". We are not encouraged in any form of self-reflection/self-appraisal, and objectivity is spurned in favor of relativist viewpoints. The average chump is limited in perspective to his sole pitiful ego, carefully nurtured and cultivated by a society of indulgence and distraction. These days we are bombarded with incessant sensory stimuli, and the selfish, mercurial hordes are kept in a state of perpetual mental discursion.

Anything from solemn meditation/contemplation to simple moral rigor can remedy this, but we are sorely lacking in any of it. Partly because our access to basic imperitives like peace, solitude, and quiet has greatly diminished, and partly for other reasons. It's no easy task to pull oneself out of it all, but it can be done.

Both parties do it and that just reflects that Americans do it.
I don't like it. I engage in it some myself though at times. I usually feel bad about it afterwards, so I try not to.

To be honest, I have not observed this trend. Of course, on facebook, my feed is choked mainly with childish, ignorant, and clearly not-fact-checked conservative garbage spewed non-stop by right-leaning family members and family friends, which I generally ignore 99% of the time. I only have one friend who is a proud and vocal liberal, but when he posts political stuff, it's always some article about some issue. I disagree with about 1 in 3 of his posts, but at least I can debate him in a civil manner without hysterics, knee-jerk name calling and all the other BS I get when debating the right wingers. There are 2 friends of mine who are pretty conservative, and post some well researched stuff, but neither are Americans, even though both take a very active interest in U.S. politics. But anything that mocks politicians or public officials based on appearance comes from non-political pages, usually meme generators.

I don't doubt the Democrats are mocking Christine on his weight, which is pretty hypocritical given they are always the ones pushing for anti-bullying laws and laws against fat discrimination. But I don't think this is anything new. It's U.S. politics as usual, and election year is coming up. Focus on everything but a candidates voting record, platform, and stance on issues.

originally posted by: amazing
I agree with the OP to an extent. I also don't post anything political on facebook. I therefore have friends of all political affiliations on there. I find that most people that do post anything political are conservative and that most of those posts are extremely negative. I don't find my left leaning friends and associates as negative or hateful. Just my observation. I find that all, yes I can say all, negative comments pertaining to physical appearance are republicans and most of that is against the Obama's. That's sickening. I will give you trumps hair. The left do insult trumps hair. That's the only exception.

Pretty much this. I have about 50/50 both "sides". I don't ever post anything political, but rather sit back and watch. Most of the time I see "conservative" people posting really simplistic memes making fun of Obama or spreading some half-truth doom porn about how the Democrats are bringing armageddon. They usually find a horrible photo of Obama looking evil and it'll have some hateful babble on it. Everything under the sun from ISIS invading to Obama praying to Mecca in the Oval Office.

It's pretty quiet from my liberal friends. They may share a New Yorker article or a Bernie Sanders quote, but that's about it. It's a lot more tame and less inflammatory and ignorant sounding -- it's as if they don't have any fight left in them.

a reply to: Moresby

No, Stewart generally goes after people's intelligence and points out the logical faults in people.

As so many have said, it's all about perspective and what you're looking for.

A better, less ignorant title might hve been "Disturbing Trend In Politics" or "Disturbing Trend in the U.S."

GOP 00:00.
DNC: 2:57

*Eyeroll

a reply to: Moresby

In all honesty, the "Hillary Clinton Kentucky Fried Chicken Special: Two fatty thighs, two small breasts, and a whole bucketful of left wings" probably wasn't started by a Democrat. That said, physical appearance, unless manifesting itself in a manner consistent with a desired voter base demographic, seems to be the only remaining acceptable target for ridicule in America.