Bernie Sanders in Kansas City at the NCLR

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: NthOther

HAHAHA... It seems you wish to return to the stone age.


I am sure there are a few secluded places in the world where you can go pound rocks, but there is no reason for you to try and drag us along with you.

It's inevitable, my friend. This system of ours, while admittedly good for producing lots of cool toys, is unsustainable and destined for collapse (and dare I say immoral).

That's not an endorsement, it's simply the admission of truth. These elections of yours are pure distraction.

And I think everyone knows that.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: xuenchen

Do you believe that all things that are worth doing should be easy?

A deflective answer/question ?

I just ordered my Bernie bumper sticker, though I'm not sure how a bumper sticker costs $3 to mail, shouldn't it be like 50 cents?

originally posted by: CB328
I just ordered my Bernie bumper sticker, though I'm not sure how a bumper sticker costs $3 to mail, shouldn't it be like 50 cents?

The cost is with the special adhesive.

It only sticks to Cadillac bumpers.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: NthOther

My suggestion is to destroy it and create an entirely new one.

What would we erect in its place?

The system we have is good on paper, it is the corruption that has over taken it that needs to be dealt with.

So maybe house cleaning instead of a destruction?

As I TOTALLY agree with your statement? How can we do it when we have two tribes so diametrically opposed that those of us who despise BOTH parties are preparing for War In Our Streets?

COMPROMISE!!!! Amazing how that word has NO PLACE in our current political state of division?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Bernie is pretty fearless, or at least courageous... and he is more openly vocal about what the symptoms of rot in our nation look like...

...but he is just as "Arithmetic challenged" as most of the rest of the politicians across the political spectrum. The difference is, he just hasn't had someone walk him through why his policy solutions can't work, but he is sincere.

There are many in DC, that KNOW the math can't work... but they don't give a damn. They see the American public as "Marks" living at the whim of the professional grifters in DC.

Given the traction he is getting, and Hillary's being in the race... his life is in danger... and that's before we talk about all the other "lever pullers' that want him to STFU, because he is interfering, potentially, in their racketeering and looting operation.

Simply put... Bernie Sanders is a very dangerous man... to the Plutocracy. If he keeps getting traction, he will either be "Ron Pauled" by the media, or he will have an "accident".

Give em' hell Bernie!

a reply to: dasman888

Hey, if SOME OF US don't speak up, well - nothing will ever change!

I applaud the man.
General populace might not, but he still speaks the truth.

Thanks for your comment!

Ron Paul 2008.

Ron Paul 2012.

Bernie Sanders 2016?

Because logic should never supercede feeling good just cause.

Listen to Chris Hedges that guy at least makes some sense for 2015.

Don't elect, evict

Please feel free to explain how he expects to pay for all these new programs, because as soon as he significantly raises the taxes on the rich, they're gone, hate to break it to you guys. Just like big business, it'll all go overseas, there's plenty of other countries that will welcome them.

originally posted by: olaru12


I don't know what you mean by "driving the socialism bus"

Well to put it bluntly, I think Christians should take over the Socialist party in this country (which shouldn't be hard considering there isn't much of one) and start pushing for economically socialist reforms like nationalizing healthcare, education, and food while standing firm on our rights to religious freedom.

originally posted by: CB328
I just ordered my Bernie bumper sticker, though I'm not sure how a bumper sticker costs $3 to mail, shouldn't it be like 50 cents?

Well its Bernie Sanders so the other $2.50 is most likely taxes.

originally posted by: EverydayInVA
Please feel free to explain how he expects to pay for all these new programs, because as soon as he significantly raises the taxes on the rich, they're gone, hate to break it to you guys. Just like big business, it'll all go overseas, there's plenty of other countries that will welcome them.

Greece?

I'd be very happy if bernie was able to get the nomination. I think I'm going to switch to democrat so I can vote for him in the primary.

a reply to: TheJourney

I think I'm going to switch to democrat so I can vote for him in the primary.

It is sad that we need to do that.
If I want to vote for Bernie in the primary as an independent then I should.

Bernie seems too fiscally dangerous to me but clearly he speaks to all of us who would see justice to all was fair and accurate as possible. I like Bernie but wouldn't necessarily vote for him because i have come to realize that Mrs Thatcher had a good observation of how wonderful socialism is until you run of other peoples money. It ends in poverty for many while the pre-decided few gain more power and wealth that they themselves were bitching about to make their point. A double standard, only for you so to speak. Like a two sided coin. These people who feel/know they are above the 'unwashed' and have consolidated their own power is who we need to find and remove from such before any Sanders' or Paul's or whoever, will be allowed to do anything. They can't do much with that rich oligarchy hanging around out there and most any "ism" that is not about your freedom to pursue your happiness without physically harming another, only changes to whom the riches/spoils reside after their revolution.

I recommend one check closely to the method Ahn Rand described in her novels to grasp the depths this can go. She got what it meant to say one is going "kill the goose that lays the golden egg" disaster that communism becomes. So far it seems obvious that happens when trying to balance the needs of many by leveling a playing field. That is not going to work for people at different wonderment levels of uniqueness. Square pegs being positioned for round holes?!

I think not moving to the two greedy political parties is what we must do or suffer the same lies over and over. I hope people here start to see the simple way for the people we like to be stomped out is for the media spin to attack. That and for the discussion of history to be avoided in context of what is happening financially. Many more people need to grasp the gravity of the process used to obtain final victory over the country targeted for takeover of ideology and in fact. The stuff i see happening fits the bible of the socialist movements, planks of communism to a T.

Socially liberal, fiscally conservative is my motto. That is my Presidential candidate.

originally posted by: xuenchen
The Bernie Sanders President Scenario for success:

1. Bernie President.

2. Slight Republican or Democrat House of Representatives that leans Social Democrat.

3. The Senate would need a solid 60 Socialist Democrat seats.


Heavy (R)House majority and/or not 60 (SD)Senate seats = stalemate beyond belief. Maybe not a bad thing if they spend minimal dollars with out needed revenues.


(SD)House and 60 solid (SD)Senate would need necessary government revenues to sustain Social spending programs. Increasing government revenue would require massive jobs increase/higher business taxes to get the revenue.


Not easy.

Go Bernie !!

One thing you forget is the number of closet lefties who would be free to come out if Bernie actually won.

I'm waiting for Elizabeth Warren to join him as VP, the rights heads would explode with terror.

originally posted by: mahatche
I'm waiting for Elizabeth Warren to join him as VP, the rights heads would explode with terror.

or jump for joy.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: mahatche
I'm waiting for Elizabeth Warren to join him as VP, the rights heads would explode with terror.

or jump for joy.

Let me guess, the native issue? I doubt most people would care, look at Hillary, Trump, Bush, and Cruz they are much scarier than a white person claiming native blood.

99.99% of white people claim to be 1/16th Cherokee anyway.