Vetting Donald Trump

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Trump, the man that can get ManBehindTheMask to agree with me and Buster in the same thread
And vice versa that we agree with you of course.

a reply to: MrSpad

He is not a threat to the system. He is a threat to the GOP. The DNC loves Trump because right now he is the GOP poster boy and they can paint the entire GOP as bunch of lunatics. And he gets all the headlines.

Exactly! He paints every single person in the conservative party as a racist, anti mexican, bigot whose for big business...

The guy is the poster child for the 1% and crony capitalism.........

NO NO NO!

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Trump, the man that can get ManBehindTheMask to agree with me and Buster in the same thread
And vice versa that we agree with you of course.

LoL so funny......I love you guys, we debate like lions but I still love you guys lol

Nice to see some common ground on occasion..........

Maybe I need to thank Trump, Maybe he can do that with the rest of the people on opposing ends of the spectrum! lol

a reply to: seeker1963

I understand the GMO labeling thing....

But with all the other issues this country is facing, do you really feel that ONE issue is worth throwing all the others away in favor of someone whose a charlatan?

I had a great 4th , I hope you did too bud!

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Trump, the man that can get ManBehindTheMask to agree with me and Buster in the same thread
And vice versa that we agree with you of course.

So, he threatens the establishment of the Republican party....he is disliked by the liberal progressives of the Democratic party...two great reasons to consider him.

The fact that posters who fight from both sides of the aisle are coming together to fight Trump...is appealing to the rest of us in the middle. If the left and the right hate him, then he must be a threat to both, and that is EXACTLY what we need NOW.

I hope he commandeers the nomination and engineers a takeover of the Repubs, and then goes on to smash the D-crats. We've already been down both of those roads. I see no one on either side willing to take on hard issues. Nor do I see anyone on either side that isn't already bought by the controllers of TPTB.

a reply to: lakesidepark

But, he didn't lie about it or try to hide it. The one thing we do have with Donald is a known quantity - he is what he is, and has no problem saying what he thinks, even if what he thinks changes over the years

Youre right, we know the man will abandon his principles to facilitate his immediate needs........

Is that what we want as a president? I guarantee you the Democrats arent going to have a candidate who will do that.....

a reply to: lakesidepark

So, he threatens the establishment of the Republican party....he is disliked by the liberal progressives of the Democratic party...two great reasons to consider him.

No , a great reason to elect someone is their policies, their Ideas, and solutions, and history of standing firm in what they are TELLING you......

Politicians are politicians, the only difference between crony politicians in Washington and Trump is just that he hasnt held an office......

The guy is just as corrupt as any of them and im sure pretty adept at using his money to do exactly what we hate, sway the political system and push lobbyist.......

NO.......

His history is completely contradictory to what hes telling everyone......

a reply to: lakesidepark

All it proves is that some people are not blind to what he really is.
A man that can talk the talk, but hasn't really shown to walk the walk.

Also I don't see him shaking the boots of the right, he is second in the polls for them.
Where is that talk track coming from?

When people from both sides that have lost faith in the current system agree that his man is just another corporate cog,I think ManBehindTheMaks falls into that category, why doesn't that show that he may be just that?

ATTENTION: If you are looking for someone with an interest in maintaining the status quo, this is your man. There is no other candidate, (perhaps, THE HILLary?), that has been granted so much power by the system.

The current set of candidates is perhaps the most disgusting that the U.S. has ever put out. How appropriate we celebrate our independence by launching gunpowder filled paper; unironically invented in China, that burn fast and blow up quickly.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: seeker1963

I understand the GMO labeling thing....

But with all the other issues this country is facing, do you really feel that ONE issue is worth throwing all the others away in favor of someone whose a charlatan?

I had a great 4th , I hope you did too bud!

Let me explain it this way!

I KNOW you hate Political Correctness, yet because Trump said a truth about illegal immigrants, the PC crowd has jumped on it calling him a racist!

He wasn't a racist when a 32 year old women was killed by and illegal who had been deported 5 times and a 5 time felon, YET he was released by San Fransisco because they were a "sanctuary city" who REFUSED to obey Federal law?

ICE wanted to be notifies when and if this criminal was going to be released, yet due to the fact San Fransisco is a sanctuary city, they broke federal law by not notifying ICE!

Thus a 32 year old women is dead because of politics?

Trump told the truth, and political correctness is making him out to be a racist?

Immigrant who shot S.F. woman was deported 5 times in the past, police say

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask He's just a showman. He likes publicity. He knows he would never be president. He has never seemed either Democrat or Republican to me, just a loud guy that has funny hair and yells about stuff that will get his face on tv more. He seems to have lost The Apprentice, but I bet some other network will hand him a show.

a reply to: lakesidepark

The fact that posters who fight from both sides of the aisle are coming together to fight Trump...is appealing to the rest of us in the middle. If the left and the right hate him, then he must be a threat to both, and that is EXACTLY what we need NOW.

My thoughts exactly!

Funny how Christians are made fun of because they believe in a God that doesn't exist? When the same mentality could be applied to those who believe in politicians! How long do we give them to do what they say? Let alone abide by their OATH?

If he was Prez things would change. If he and the Vice went down, the next in line to run the country is his hairpiece.

Seriously. This dude is more PT Barnham than R Reagan. But hey.... Barnham said, "There's a sucker born every minute..." so maybe.

a reply to: seeker1963

NoNo dont misunderstand me....

The reason I feel the way I do is because I can see that hes fake........not only in what he says but his background......

Hes granstanding and the guy epitomizes every stereotype people think about conservatives.....

The guy is all about money and power and hes proven it with his transactions.......

Hes NOT the guy to get lobbyist out......

hes NOT the guy to stand firm with conservative values..

hes NOT the guy who has experience battling for constitutional rights

The only thing Donald is for is furthering HIS image.......and garnering attention...

Again....where are his solutions.....

If people want to vote for him fine, where are his solutions? Where does he have any solution that is even close to viable?

Where is his experience in matters like this other than making off the wall political statements every election cycle?

What about his Clinton Donations?

It doesnt........add..........up.......

The guy is a finger puppet.......

"We like what he says we like what he says"

Isnt this the EXACT argument we lampooned the left for when they voted for Barack?

You do realize that so many people championing trump are doing the SAME thing

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Hes granstanding and the guy epitomizes every stereotype people think about conservatives.....

Have you read the Drawing of the Three(Stephen King)? In that Detta Walker is a ridiculous parody of black culture. A "caricature". That's fiction. Trump is the real deal. A caricature.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Hes granstanding and the guy epitomizes every stereotype people think about conservatives.....

Have you read the Drawing of the Three(Stephen King)? In that Detta Walker is a ridiculous parody of black culture. A "caricature". That's fiction. Trump is the real deal. A caricature.

i havent! ill have to check that out I love King.......

Trump is definitely the real deal

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: seeker1963

NoNo dont misunderstand me....

The reason I feel the way I do is because I can see that hes fake........not only in what he says but his background......

Hes granstanding and the guy epitomizes every stereotype people think about conservatives.....

The guy is all about money and power and hes proven it with his transactions.......

Hes NOT the guy to get lobbyist out......

hes NOT the guy to stand firm with conservative values..

hes NOT the guy who has experience battling for constitutional rights

The only thing Donald is for is furthering HIS image.......and garnering attention...

Again....where are his solutions.....

If people want to vote for him fine, where are his solutions? Where does he have any solution that is even close to viable?

Where is his experience in matters like this other than making off the wall political statements every election cycle?

What about his Clinton Donations?

It doesnt........add..........up.......

The guy is a finger puppet.......

"We like what he says we like what he says"

Isnt this the EXACT argument we lampooned the left for when they voted for Barack?

You do realize that so many people championing trump are doing the SAME thing

He could be!? Hell, look at the power of politics and the MSM that has gotten us all divided to the point that we are inches away from war on the streets! Do you think that is by accident?

But I'll tell ya this much. I will NEVER vote for someone I see being promoted by CNN/FOX/NBC etc etc....Funny how I see all these people who bitch about corporations, yet their cognitive dissonance prevents them from realizing who owns the media who is spoon feeding their brains on how to think on a daily basis?

The 2 party system knows that they are in trouble, so it very well could be Trump is their savior? I'll take my chances, because I know damn well voting party lines will just be more of the same ole same ole. Promise after promise, years upon years, and not one damn promise kept!
All I see is a destruction of the Constitution and a movement towards "Global Governance" and that's not a conspiracy theory, they talk about wide out in the open..........

a reply to: seeker1963

I dont disagree at all on those points

which is why we should look at Trump with a critical eye, hes eating up the lime light....hes a distraction........

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: seeker1963

I dont disagree at all on those points

which is why we should look at Trump with a critical eye, hes eating up the lime light....hes a distraction........

Don't think I haven't thought about that brother!

But with that being said, can you understand why I am to the point of "I don't give a snip" that I am willing to gamble?

I mean, what do WE got to lose that we are not already preparing to lose?

It appears that everyone wishes for someone that has no corruption and no personal motives, and will try to do the right thing every time.

We had that with Jimmy Carter, he was a fine man and as respectable as one could choose...and totally ineffective as a leader. He tried to deal honestly with the snake-pit of corruption and that don't work.

It would be nice if we could elect someone that has altruistic values and no self-interest...but that would have to happen over 500 times in order to clear the snake-pit of Congress.

Instead, we will have to settle with someone that can fight within the snake-pit and win. I have no illusions about the Donald. Yes he is full of himself. Arrogant. Narcissistic. Out for what is good for Trump.

The question is...is that bad? If Trump decides that the success of the U.S. is good for the Trump, will we suffer more than we have with Obama? With Bush? With HITLERLY?

I tend to believe NO. What's good for Trump is a booming economy, good trade relations, less war...all makes his businesses more profitable. Unlike the trio mentioned above, who profit from satisfying special interests, Trump profits from Trump's interests.

When you are dealing with a corrupt system, you need someone that is used to shady dealings and shifty self-interested politicians...someone that knows how to fight in the mud with snakes and come out with the prize...and someone that won't sell us out because someone else is waving dollar bills at him, Trump makes his own money and doesn't have to kiss the butts of special interests to fill the kitty while in office (or for that matter, getting into the office). Trumps' special interest is...Trump. Some think that's bad. I think it means other special interests can shove their dollars where the sun goes dark if they think they can buy Trump.

Didn't say he was my hero. But out of the choices we have now? I'll take a narcissist that is already paid for over either the dynasties of the past or the line-up of neo-cons and socialists vying for the office from both sides.