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Bernie Sanders draws crowd of 10,000 at Wisconsin rally

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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:07 AM
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Just two months into Bernie Sanders campaign, the presidential hopeful is beginning to draw massive crowds in support of his nomination, as can be seen on his latest leg of the journey towards the oval office.

Note: all these people came in support of Bernie without being paid to be there...


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Sanders packed the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Madison, filling its 10,000 seats to show his bid to snatch the Democratic nomination from front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton isn’t a longshot.


Go Bernie!!!




posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

I have high hopes for Bernie. I do know that Hillary is very popular with Democrats, though, and she's got the monetary backing... It would be fantastic to show that the PEOPLE have the power, instead of the MONEY. We, the people, could really upset the applecart if we came together to prove that money in politics isn't necessarily the deciding factor...

Go, Bernie!!!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Power to the people, wouldn't that be a wonderful thing! However, I guess we'll see how much free speech money can buy.

When one or two people can buy a process in dollars, outweighing even ten thousand who donated 5 dollars each ( hypothetically) we are in for a real doozy.

Hopefully the people can outweigh the few...


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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:46 AM
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His Achilles heel is that he takes on the label of Socialist, which in low-information America is a word identified with Communism, Evil, and People Who Kick Dogs. So he should address that early and often, because if he got the Democratic nomination that chink in his armor would give the Presidency to the repressive Republican candidate.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 08:01 AM
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What happens now doesn't matter... Remember a few years back when Ron Paul was doing great then disappeared... Or Huckabee a few years before that.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Aleister

Yes, I think he might give too much credit to the intelligence and education of the American voter. He should address it in his speeches. To be fair, I haven't heard any of his speeches. I look at his past, his voting record and his stability. It's astounding!

This site is down right now, but it's a comprehensive view of his voting records and positions on the issues.
www.ontheissues.org...



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Aleister
His Achilles heel is that he takes on the label of Socialist, which in low-information America is a word identified with Communism, Evil, and People Who Kick Dogs. So he should address that early and often, because if he got the Democratic nomination that chink in his armor would give the Presidency to the repressive Republican candidate.


I wonder how much "free speech" money would be necessary to turn the word "Socialist" into a new meaning in America?



Go Bernie !!

Sanders also runs the risk of infiltration/sabotage if he becomes a big threat to Hillary.




posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Aleister

Yes, I think he might give too much credit to the intelligence and education of the American voter.



That could be a problem.

He needs to study the public school failures.

And then he needs to work on that bad habit of blaming and criticizing "low" intelligence and "low" education.

Even a dumbie gets insulted eventually.




posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Daedal

Bernard voted against going into Iraq

He had me at No

I'm tired of thinking about voting - honestly

But I can't say I'd feel bad about voting for him. Strategy is getting us nowhere



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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OK, I looked up socialism:



1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2

a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


It either sounds like he wants total government ownership or no private property rights or no private property where any actual production is done OR he sounds like he wants the status quo.

But I am not getting it wrong when I describe it, and if I still am, you better hope all the dictionaries in America can be changed.
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posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

The people have already lost to money. It's been game over for a very long time. Expect 2016 to belong to either Bush or Clinton, and that's because chances are the choice has already been made long ago.

I'm liking Bernie but he doesn't stand a chance against $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
The people have already lost to money. It's been game over for a very long time. Expect 2016 to belong to either Bush or Clinton, and that's because chances are the choice has already been made long ago.


You may be right. I am "hopeful" that you aren't. I can't help but have hope for our future.

If Hillary wins (or is selected or appointed), it's going to be more of the same. With Jeb, it's going to be worse, he's too much like George.

JEB!



Strongly Favors topic 4: Keep God in the public sphere
Strongly Favors topic 15: Expand the military
Opposes topic 17: Stay out of Iran
Opposes topic 18: Prioritize green energy
Strongly Favors topic 19: Never legalize marijuana


I just saw a little bit of one of Bernie's speeches. Man! He's impressive! He is really good at getting his message across. And the brilliant thing is, this has been his message since he began in politics. He's balanced budgets and created jobs. He's always worked for the people. And he makes complete sense to me.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: Aleister
His Achilles heel is that he takes on the label of Socialist, which in low-information America is a word identified with Communism, Evil, and People Who Kick Dogs. So he should address that early and often, because if he got the Democratic nomination that chink in his armor would give the Presidency to the repressive Republican candidate.



I think that being a Socialist is in large part what makes him popular. People are beginning to understand just who is looking out for them.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


OK, I looked up socialism


Just now?

:-)



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I'd hope I'm wrong too but it's all too evident money rules politics and those who have the money have already decide who will best represent them, not the public.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: Daedal

That is Kick Ass.
Rock n Roll!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Daedal

I have high hopes for Bernie. I do know that Hillary is very popular with Democrats, though, and she's got the monetary backing... It would be fantastic to show that the PEOPLE have the power, instead of the MONEY. We, the people, could really upset the applecart if we came together to prove that money in politics isn't necessarily the deciding factor...

Go, Bernie!!!


Yeah, well good luck! I shared those exact same sentiments during the 2012 elections when Ron Paul drew in crowds of thousands over and over, but was ignored consistently by the media and GOP. "Grass roots" is over, IMO and that year proved it for me. (I don't believe the DNC to be any less corrupt than the GOP, the two are pals IRL)

It will be interesting to watch Bernie's journey. I'm not a Bernie supporter, so it will be nice to be on the sidelines watching instead of potentially shaving years of my life away due to all the stress and BS from the media etc.
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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Aleister
His Achilles heel is that he takes on the label of Socialist, which in low-information America is a word identified with Communism, Evil, and People Who Kick Dogs. So he should address that early and often, because if he got the Democratic nomination that chink in his armor would give the Presidency to the repressive Republican candidate.


You are 100% correct, again. I support most of your posts.

This country indeed has the lowest information voters on the planet, who only 'know' what the news tells them.

These same voters, and many here at ATS cry socialism all the time, and more specifically tie the label to Obama. It is truly mind boggling if not downright sad. The true point they illustrate is that they have no idea what socialism is, nor what they are even talking about. They just spout things they heard on the radio on saw on CNN or Fox. Millions of Americans no longer have the ability to critically think or see what is really happening.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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When the election approaches the massive corporate campaigns will kick in and the corporate media will begin to ignore Sanders whilst Democrat Party supporters will harp on about "viability", saying Clinton is the only "real choice".

Even further, if Sanders did somehow win he would move rightward like all "leftist" politicians do once in high office. His rightward shift would end up being something to the right of old FDR type liberalism.

Look at the Labour Party in Britain. They've mangled the whole "socialist" thing beyond recognition. A "socialist" presidency in the USA would end up much the same as the Labour Party.

Sanders foreign policy views are already right wing...the most we could expect from a Sanders administration would perhaps be a higher minimum wage but many corporations are already beginning to bend on that issue.

Heck, Sanders isn't even a socialist anyhow, he may as well stop calling himself one. He's pretty much what liberalism use to be. Nothing socialist about him.

Socialism is an economic model where workers run production. "Universal healthcare" isn't socialism. Keynesian/government job creation isn't socialism. Nationalizing a bank or two isn't socialism.

Socialism is defined by people's relation to the means of production. It's not defined by feel good government policies enacted in order to soften the edges of capitalism-to minimize the damage done to working people. Socialism puts working people in control of the workplace. Sanders simply advocates old school FDR type liberalism of the likes Democrats advocated before Bill Clinton pushed the party to the right (economically).



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: JeanPaul

Don't fret.

Joe Biden will save the Democrats !!





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