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originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: Seamrog
...and the heavy hand of an agenda-driven moderator.
And again. Last frickin time.......
EVERY action that staff does is logged. Every action is seen by every staffer. On the staff are conservatives, liberals, anarchists, socialists, Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists, seniors, 20 somethings, EVERYONE!!!! If all is seen how could there be "an agenda driven moderator?" Cripes.
originally posted by: purplemer
originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: purplemer
and illegals, ban people for the hate speech against illegals
Hate speech against any peoples should not be tollerated. With freedom of speech comes responsbility
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: yuppa
Pointing out someone is doing something illegal isn't hate speech. Pointing out that someone is doing something illegal in a derogatory way is.
Mexicans that come here illegally are criminals. Not hate.
Those damn Mexicans that come here illegally are criminals and all deserve to be shot coming over the border. Hate.
originally posted by: masqua
I think that opening post is an excellent topic.
The way to handle it is to not do as you did publicly here, but to alert staff to posts that you think cross the line.
This way, the posters that do cross the T&C's won't know that you were the one that blew the whistle (if you catch my drift).
Staff cannot read every thread... it's impossible for us and we depend on you, the membership, to let us know where the T&C lines are being crossed.
For instance, I've sat here at my computer publicly dealing only with this thread and have had no time to read anything else.
originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: reldra
I hope it is uniform. I have had a warning in a U2U about a recent reply in a thread that was not any of the quoted things, and made little sense, logically or otherwise. I asked for further explanation and was ignored. The same mod moved an entire thread of mine to The Trash Bin- it was none of the things noted either and could have gone to general chit chat as far as I am concerned- but it just gets trashed. I am feeling a little picked on by the same mod.
I was quite disturbed recently when a mod deleted a post in which I admittedly reacted with anger to another member who was openly mocking myself and others with relentless impunity on a thread regarding something paranormal. This member had apparently written a lengthy, completely and utterly off-topic post (on the same thread) about recovering from a psychotic episode that caused him to have to stop visiting ATS forums. Apparently he was a long-time member previously and was "reintroducing" himself by hijacking someone else's thread. Apparently, for this particular member, that was acceptable behavior.
I still haven't read the entire post because it's self-serving and attention seeking, which is why I didn't read it in the first place...those types of things irritate me and it was irrelevant to the thread. There was no reason for me to think he had done this, because it was not the topic we were discussing. I made a reply to something he said to me, and in that reply said something along the lines of "someone must have forgotten their meds today", in reaction to the mocking, rude things he was saying to me.
I didn't log back on until the following day, and when I did I had a U2U waiting for me. "Ill-mannered post removed". Yet a post in which yet another member was calling me out, by name, publicly "shaming" me for "using this person's mental problems against him", etc. was left there. I don't even know these people! The off-topic posts (there were several) were left there.
I contacted the mod, questioning why posts that blatantly violated the T&C were left on the thread, including the one specifically directed at me. I stated to the mod that I had no reason to know that this person was taking meds of any kind. Why would I? The thread was about a paranormal encounter, not mental health. Yes, what I said was very sarcastic. Against the T&C? No, it wasn't. And I got absolutely no response to my U2U; it was ignored. I know all of the mods aren't like that, but it only takes one to make the rest look bad. Maybe it wasn't favoritism, but it sure looks that way.
People don't like to feel as if they're being picked on. We should all have equal value here.
originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: Daedalus
Perhaps there was an something going on which was not publicly obvious. The T&C's are what we act on and it is never because some single staffer takes exception to a reasonable topic.
Any staffer that did something like that might not last too long.
We don't discuss how or why members get banned.
A perfect storm of factors come together to engender the rudeness and aggression seen in the comments' sections of Web pages, Markman said.
First, commenters are often virtually anonymous, and thus, unaccountable for their rudeness.
Second, they are at a distance from the target of their anger — be it the article they're commenting on or another comment on that article — and people tend to antagonize distant abstractions more easily than living, breathing interlocutors.
Third, it's easier to be nasty in writing than in speech,
noted another cause of the vitriol: bad examples set by the media. "Unfortunately, mainstream media have made a fortune teaching people the wrong ways to talk to each other, offering up Jerry Springer, Crossfire, Bill O'Reilly. People understandably conclude rage is the political vernacular, that this is how public ideas are talked about," Wasserman wrote in an article on his university's website. "It isn't."