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originally posted by: TheLotLizard
a reply to: Anyafaj
Wouldn't people turn around and sue claiming that they obtained burns from sitting in the car or say they sat in there so long that they got heat stroke?
Or at the very least cruel and unusual punishment.
I am not disagreeing at all and I think the owner should have to sit in there as long as they had their animal/child in the car. But It just feels like a bad idea in the long run.
But on the other hand of that dilemma I think More laws will arise about the concerns of animals.
originally posted by: CallYourBluff
What, he didn't break her back and shoot the dog? This cop needs retraining.
originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: Anyafaj
You have no understanding of due process, constitution and our legal system if you think that police are judge and jury, and can mistreat citizens asif they lived in a drug cartel third world country or the middle east.
No, we're giving up our nation.
originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: Anyafaj
You have no understanding of due process, constitution and our legal system if you think that police are judge and jury, and can mistreat citizens as if they lived in a drug cartel third world country or the middle east.
No, we're giving up our nation.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Anyafaj
I saw a dog, clearly distressed, in a locked car in a shopping centre here in Perth just 2 months ago (hot summers here). After smashing the window and freeing the poor creature it drank about a litre of water. I waited for the owner, a 25-year old idiot who proceeded to lecture me on the damage. Suffice to say, for his own protection, as a large crowd was gathering, the police took him away and he was eventually charged with animal cruelty.
Children are not immune to the same thing either.......unfortunately.
NEVER hesitate to smash the window - ever.
That's a +1 for the cops too........I agree..........nothing like a taste of your own medicine to really hit home.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Anyafaj
In any case, cops shouldn't be meting out punishment on-the-spot for any crime... whether it's endangering the life of a dog or murder, it should go through our crappy justice system. I know it needs improvement badly, but the answer isn't to have the cops play judge, jury and sentencer.
originally posted by: Anyafaj
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
No, this isn't a good tactic. Since when did police have the authority to issue punishments of their own creation? Isn't that the whole point in laws? Lawmakers decide the laws, police detain people suspected of breaking those laws, and the judicial system decides whether the suspect is guilty or not. Then punishment is determined. Judges sometimes issue punishments like this, but that's not for the police to decide.
This is literally why we have a growing police state now. Because people think it's acceptable for police to overstep the limits of their authority & actually become the judges, as well.
With that being said, I absolutely hate seeing kids & animals locked in cars. But the focus should be on educating people on the harm in doing it beforehand.
EDIT: Whoops, Unity 99 beat me to it
I wonder how many people actually read the article, or the OP, where it says this is voluntary. The police made this a request, not an order. The woman only had to sit I her car for 5-10 minutes. Not enough to kill her, unlike how long it might take to kill an animal or child. I'd say people are getting off lucky. They're not staying in their vehicle the amount of time their kids or animals are. This is NOT mandatory. They're getting off lucky in that they do NOT get a ticket. So where is the complaint again?
Edit: Not to mention, One participant didn't even SIT in her car, made a complaint to superiors, never got a ticket, so what was her problem again? She wasn't arrested, her window wasn't broken, her animal wasn't removed from her care. Where is the loss? BTW, Superiors sided with cop after viewing body cam and saw that it was a request and not an order and that the woman didn't even comply at that.
I LOVE this idea! For me, THIS is great police work. Lead by example!