The USA what went wrong and is it fixable?

a reply to: TheNewRevolution

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You already answered your own question. Regan was an amazing President who was overwhelming elected to his second term. Obama is reviled and has clearly failed to lead the US in a way that it SHOULD be led.

I too fondly remember the eighties. Bush and Obama have killed this country.

The slow creeping death of socialism topped off with years of Obama at the helm

No, it's the destruction of the Nation by capitalists. Everyone's afraid they won't be able to pay their bills tomorrow because of the high cost of living and jobs being sent overseas or to illegal migrants. Add disappearing benefits, and the hospitals, banks, colleges and pharmaceutical companies taking everyone's money. Stupid population growth has exacerbated everything and made it impossible for Americans to be unified.

The average cost of a house now in my hometown is 300,000-400,000 dollars with many much higher. How can people be happy with that?

originally posted by: Metallicus
You already answered your own question. Regan was an amazing President who was overwhelming elected to his second term. Obama is reviled and has clearly failed to lead the US in a way that it SHOULD be led.

I too fondly remember the eighties. Bush and Obama have killed this country.

Well this is just silly. Crediting Reagan with the state of the US during only his first year in office is the height of ignorant hero worship.

a reply to: khnum

The middle class here is being squeezed out.
I'd have to say my standard of living is back to what it was about 1974.
And life wasn't all that great for me back then, although at least back then I had REAL healthcare.

The spark is definitely gone.
I don't think you could get a good civil rights movement started now, as you did in the 60s.

Corporations have taken over.
I read somewhere the three biggest businesses in the US are banking, insurance and real estate.
Manufacturing is gone pretty much and the US is a mere shell of herself.

What went wrong? We raised one generation after another of spoiled entitled everyone-wins children who didn't have to fight or work for anything and now the world isn't kissing their ass and shining their shoes and they don't know what to do about it so they run back home to mommy and daddy who are too busy just trying to keep their heads above water to raise their children - again.

Freedom was never free. What went wrong is we have an abundance of people who take it for granted and aren't willing to fight for it. It cant and wont last if people aren't willing to sacrifice and fight for it. Nothing worth having is free. Its like the lesson my parents taught me when I was very young. I wanted a new bike. My parents could easily have bought it for me but they made me earn the money so I could buy it myself. The reason was that I would learn the value of a dollar and that I would appreciate the bike more if I had to work for it. They were right.

I just read an article about some college punks who spat on disabled vets at a rally. This coming just after students walking on the flag to protest whatever bs they were protesting. If punks like this continue to show no respect for the country, its flag, or its people the end result can be nothing but a country that doesn't deserve respect any more.

Globalist gave US industrial might to Asia so US has been using debt bubbles to import wealth ever since.

With Social Security and Medicare on the brink of insolvency, 401K pensions with a median of $18,433 (which the government has cough burrowed), total debt including federal off-balance-sheet commitments as high as $800,000 - $1.000,000 per full time private sector worker, it ain't going to get any prettier, any time soon.

The guy that predicted 2008 collapse (Wiedemer) is now predicting 50% unemployment, a 90% stock market drop, and 100% annual inflation starting as soon as next year.”

So keep a close eye on Walmart, if that goes down, everything else might soon follow.

a reply to: LOSTinAMERICA

"There seems to be a real agenda to make people dependent and dumbed down enough to fall for it. "

" The # heads are in power but they won't be forever. People will rise up to the occasion and that is a full grown conclusion. "


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originally posted by: vexati0n

originally posted by: Metallicus
You already answered your own question. Regan was an amazing President who was overwhelming elected to his second term. Obama is reviled and has clearly failed to lead the US in a way that it SHOULD be led.

I too fondly remember the eighties. Bush and Obama have killed this country.

Well this is just silly. Crediting Reagan with the state of the US during only his first year in office is the height of ignorant hero worship.

Well, it certainly wasn't the preceding President that should be credited with the positivity of the 1980s. Carter was the worst President this country has ever had until Bush and then Obama was worse than both of them.

I lived those positive times and I can tell you that the country was united behind Regan and he restored the US to world dominance after the 4 years of neglect during the Carter administration.

People felt so good about Regan that in 1984 he carried 49 of the 50 states and 535 electoral votes. You will never see that again in our lifetimes.

Sorry you missed the 80's it was a good time to be alive.

This isn't exclusive to America.

In Britain, during the 80's (when I grew up), there was always a sense of national pride. People would gather on the streets and party, you could leave your front door open without worry.

Children as young as 5 would go out and play on the streets, the parents wouldn't worry about their well being because they knew they were safe.

Now everyone seems to keep to themselves, no more street parties, no more pride.....what happened?

a reply to: woogleuk

" Now everyone seems to keep to themselves, no more street parties, no more pride.....what happened? "


Like many other Countries around the World , to Much Cultural Diversity due to unchecked Immigration . England is no Different in that regard.

a reply to: khnum

It started going wrong when we teamed up with the Soviets instead of Hitler in WWII.

Then things really went south when the CIA had a coup to take the FBI out of power with the Kennedy assassination.

You're Serious? It's the greed that flooded our economy through fortune 500 corporate companies and others that sucked up all the money, payed employees like fast food workers, then take their 98% share and then put it in an offshore account. You're brainwashed into thinking everything is socialist because that's how big cheese in charge wants you to think so that he can protect his assets. Don't be ignorant, it just makes you sound like a dumb hillbilly.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Money in politics period, elected officials are bought and sold for. No one cares about any greater good for the country or the world only their own advancement. I've had the opportunity to travel to many countries and realized the whole world isn't a third world craphole like I was lead to believe as a child. With that said America is still a great country and its just not as great as it once was or could be. Until people stop supporting the corporate paradiam it will continue to get worse and worse. I hope the elite realize this and atleast throw us a bone every once in awhile. It will be beneficial for them and us as well. If they continue to be as greed as they have been it will get very ugly for them but not us because we are used to it.

I saw a radical change in my family members, and the overall attitude of people in general when I go back to Cali., after the events of 9/11.

originally posted by: BoxFulder
Money in politics period

What about money in general? We used to be fairly Christian religious here, now it'son its last legs, nobody gos to Church anymore. Everybody seems obsessed with chasing money these days at least here in the UK. Me too at times, but I do take breaks from it. Is the world so more competitive now, being a much more global economy rather than a local one? Do we as a humanity need a more local economy? Is a global ecenomy changing our lives at a pace we don't cope with? One minute it's boom, next minute it's bust, house prices zooming up, then once again chop they fall. Is it too all over the place? Is there no consistency to life? Never knowing where we are or what's around the corner?

It's fixable.

People and Presidents have made many mistakes and will make many more.

The fundamental error that led to where we are today is the decision to engage in a "War on Terror" rather than treat the terrorists like criminals and hunt them down judicially with some spec ops elements mixed in.

That choice elevated the terrorists and diminished a Superpower.

That choice echoes everytime you see a law enforcement officer use excessive force against a homeless schizophrenic guy.

That choice leads to the rest of the unfortunate symptoms, surveillance state, economic collapse by sending a trillion dollars overseas, etc.

One could counter that the terrorism was just a good excuse to expand the grand strategy, but if that's the case it's not fixable until after the next world war.

a reply to: khnum

Nothing can fix US at this point

Only way and revolution

originally posted by: Bluesma
I saw a radical change in my family members, and the overall attitude of people in general when I go back to Cali., after the events of 9/11.

Yep. I remember during the 90s how Area 51, UFO's, alien abductions, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, the "stealth bomber", etc were big in pop culture. After 9/11 things changed drastically. Everything seemed fear driven and people were freaking out about anything "Muslim". And you had the Dept of Homeland Security putting out those constant "terror alerts" to keep people on edge. (Not to mention the Wars in Afghanistan & Iraq and their effects on American families & the economy.)

All of this distracted people from the rampant shifting of jobs from the US to China and other outsourcing destinations. And the US economy had 2 major collapses, in 2001 and in 2008, which made things even worse.

Greed is the cause and it won't be fixed by choice of the greedy. That part about 'for the people' is mostly gone.