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THE ALL or THE NOTHING

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posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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This is something my Spiritual Guide taught me:
"In the beginning was nothing. If nothing could exist, then nothing was probable. If nothing was probable then all of the possibilities too. In an instant these two forces (NOTHING and ALL) came into action one with another, creating the singularity. From there exist this universe and the law of opposites in where everything works."

My interpretation:
If nothing can exist, it means that nothing is something. Making possible anything else.
It may sound contradictory. But is supposed to be that way, the interaction between the contradiction is what generates the energy to create this universe.
In order to be good, bad needs to act and vice versa.




posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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Isn't 'nothing' the lack of 'something'?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:42 AM
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originally posted by: Prezbo369
Isn't 'nothing' the lack of 'something'?

If we can identify "nothing", then nothing is something.
Meaning that there is always something, including nothing.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Abednego


This is something my Spiritual Guide taught me:

Is your "Guide" in human form or ethereal?

The only problem I have with this is the concept of infinity and eternity. If the Universe is infinite and forever, then it is never ending. Never ending means it had no beginning. That means it had forever to be filled with stuff (including life) .

There was never "nothing".



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Prezbo369
Isn't 'nothing' the lack of 'something'?

No - thng doesn't rule out the space between things, which is something again.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: Abednego

originally posted by: Prezbo369
Isn't 'nothing' the lack of 'something'?

If we can identify "nothing", then nothing is something.
Meaning that there is always something, including nothing.


I dunno. To me "Nothing" is simply a man-made word to indicate the void, the absence of... anything.

If nothing is something, then how would you feel if, at the reading of a Will, in which you and two other people were to be heirs, they got to split the total amount and you got nothing. Did you get something?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

Arent they relative to each other?
one cannot exist without the other?
Ah No, All cannot exist without nothing.
But Nothing can exist without ALL...
...but still its Nothing.

Strange Comprehension.

edit on 20-4-2015 by IAmPhoenix7 because: wrong spelling wrong



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: intrptr
Your right. There is never "nothing". What we call nothing is simply something.
About the concept of infinity and eternity, is way beyond our understanding. The closest explanation I can came up is that everything evolve to something else. Nothing die, just change to another state.
Do we die? The answer would be a no. We just change.
Do we keep memories from past states? Maybe.
The aspect of acquiring consciousness or awareness is to be able to still know we are we in the different states we may reach.

My guide is human. I did not chose him, he choose me. But still a long way to reach his level.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

The lack of anything whatsoever is something?

The absence of a thing somehow means the presence of a thing?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Abednego


My guide is human.

Be careful there…

each of us already have the tools to utilize in the search for truth or salvation, whatever (that eternal thing). It lies within us through our soul, the gateway to the real spirit realm.

Through others is jaded. A test for your guide is to measure whether he is making you more dependent on him for knowledge and wisdom or your own inner source. Is he showing you how he discovered this and encouraging you to separate from his teachings or just enslaving you to his teachings?

What are the stated goals?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: new_here
Still I got something. Even if I may apparently empty handed.
Nothing is part of the ALL. Because ALL is all.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: intrptr
He is just letting me be. He is showing me the different paths and encourage me to follow my own.
Actually the way it works is that he tell me what to read and later (usually a few weeks later) we just sit and talk.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369
A fish swimming in the ocean, does he knows there is water around him, or think he is just floating around in nothing?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: Abednego


He is just letting me be. He is showing me the different paths and encourage me to follow my own.

Thats a good sign. Keep a watchful eye. Religion is a cult.

Its gate keepers are everywhere. Question him always, he shouldn't have a problem with that if he's sincere. Always the practice should be leading you to the same place, ultimately away from him and towards your own inner guide.

Everyone has that. He should be showing you how to find it (like he did) and 'graduating' you when done.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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Both "nothing" and "everything" exists simultaneously right now. What do you see? The "everything". What don't you see? The "nothing".

We all have a blind spot, it lies just on the other side of what can be seen. What is it that animates the body and causes the body to experience? The "nothing".



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: Abednego




If nothing can exist, it means that nothing is something. Making possible anything else.


Nothing doesn't exist. Only everything exists.


It may sound contradictory. But is supposed to be that way, the interaction between the contradiction is what generates the energy to create this universe.


Unfortunately for your "guide", that is not the case.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Abednego
a reply to: Prezbo369
A fish swimming in the ocean, does he knows there is water around him, or think he is just floating around in nothing?



I don't know, fish are probably unable to comprehend any of that.

Anyhow none of your reply doesn't answerd my question.....how can the absence of a thing mean the presence of a thing?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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Nothing doesn't exist. Only everything exists.


That's exactly what I said. Nothing is something.


Unfortunately for your "guide", that is not the case.


What is the case then?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369
Because there is no absence of anything.
There is just all.
All is part of THE ALL, therefore THE ALL is in all.




edit on 20-4-2015 by Abednego because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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That's exactly what I said. Nothing is something.


No it isn't. Look in the dictionary.


What is the case then?


Nothing doesn't exist. Only everything exists.



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