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Fcc expected to publish net neutrality rules this week, how long until the taxes are added?

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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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The fcc has determined that Internet service providers should be treated like public utilities. I'm not going to go into the pros and cons of net neutrality here because it has been beat to death. I'm only going to mention one of the consequences this will bring about. That is new taxes. One thing the you can count on is the government adding new taxes. They have lost revenue from long distance calls being reduced by cell phones and need new ways to replace the missing revenue. My guess is net neutrality is how they plan to raise the money.
The l.a. Times agrees I think...


www.latimes.com...=1


www.inc.com...




posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Not long.

In time, expect the usual Universal Service Fees, Sales Taxes, Usage Tax, Licensing for Bloggers, Licensing for "official" news agencies / press, a new push for a "fairness doctrine" . This is just the beginning.

Expect to see more "Chinese Style" tactics with flowery reasons why we need it to get the Progressive buy in.

www.chinafile.com...

www.dw.de...



For all online account-based services, such as social media and comment functions on news web sites, users will be obliged to register with their real identity, which must be verified by the online platform.

Furthermore, Internet users must, when opening their account, commit to respect a list of seven "baselines": laws and regulations, the Socialist system, the national interest, citizens' lawful rights and interest, the public order, social moral customs and the veracity of information.

The first challenge for any authority to successfully regulate the Internet is identifiability: the ability to find out who did what from where. The Chinese leadership has, over the past few years, consistently held that Internet users must be held to standards of responsibility and civility online, and these rules help them connect acts with actors.

They also want to ensure that it is clear which online information comes from where, in order to control the spread of information online. Last year, for instance, it was stipulated that only registered news outlets could operate public WeChat accounts carrying current affairs-related content.

Moreover, although the regulations don't explicitly mention this, real-name registration certification usually takes place on the basis of identity card numbers. Last June, the State Council published plans to build a "social credit system," a system where all acts by individuals would be aggregated into a "credit score," which is not only concerned with, for example, someone's financial status, but also ones behavior online.


These new rules contribute to the credit system by ensuring that social media accounts and similar services can be coupled to broader databases on individuals' activities.

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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

From your first link...




Recently adopted net neutrality regulations soon could make your monthly Internet bill more complicated — and potentially more expensive. Every month, consumers pay a small fee on their phone bills for a federal program that uses the money — a total of $8.8 billion raised nationwide last year — to provide affordable access to telecommunications services in rural areas, underserved inner cities and schools. Now the fee could start appearing on broadband bills too, in a major expansion of the nearly two-decade-old Universal Service Fund program.




Not sure why they would say the USF will be added to broadband bills like it would be first time , because i've been paying that tax since i've been getting broaedband internet . It's on my bill every month.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: thishereguy

I have a feeling "fairness" is going to get expensive..



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: thishereguy

I have a feeling "fairness" is going to get expensive..






If the " fairness " gets much more expensive , I will have to cancel my "fairness' because I ain't paying it.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Not long.

In time, expect the usual Universal Service Fees, Sales Taxes, Usage Tax, Licensing for Bloggers, Licensing for "official" news agencies / press, a new push for a "fairness doctrine" . This is just the beginning.

Expect to see more "Chinese Style" tactics with flowery reasons why we need it to get the Progressive buy in.

www.chinafile.com...

www.dw.de...




My bet is "fairness doctrine" stuff is already in there, that was my biggest fears with the passing of net neutrality, that it would include, forcing all web sites to be neutral (as in tow the government line, or else)

Let's wait and see. I give it a few weeks at best before we find some "fairness" (the government version) written in that will force the internet to turn into mainstream media type lap dogs of the federal government.
I could be wrong, but somehow, knowing the government and who is currently running it, I doubt I am wrong.


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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: thishereguy

I have a feeling "fairness" is going to get expensive..


Not only that I doubt this 'fairness' will be fair at all.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Yes, there are many legal reasons why this is unlikely to stand but, just as with the ACA, people will grasp at straws and claim that "some parts" of it should be kept and that you are a bad person if you don't have "a better idea".



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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Oh now! Where's your patriotism? Uncle Joe says someone has to pay for all those Obamaphones to have Obamanet.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


But Hilary Clinton said "dissent is the highest form of patriotism"



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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New taxes? Impossible! I've been assured by all of the liberal Obama shills that this will be the greatest thing to happen to the internet since Al Gore invented the thing. And just based on the ACA, I mean, what could possibly go wrong here?



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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Hypothetical abusive business practices are being traded for certain abuse at the hands of government bureaucrats. If 'net neutrality' supporters are proven right we have to pay a little more for speedy connections; if the skeptics are proven right the internet will no longer be a bastion of freedom. Which outcome is worse?

Saying 'I told you so' won't be very gratifying when web speech is regulated and text is taxed at 50 cents per character...but I'll do it anyway. That is, if sites like ATS are still allowed.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: OpenMindedRealist

When true neutrality is the goal, I'm all for it. When it's just a tax grab and neutrality is a secondary objective, I'm a little more apprehensive.
Public utilities haven't exactly been free from price gouging and your ISP is now being treated like a public utility.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 11:46 PM
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Net Neutrality - FCC Regulation Could Cost Consumers $6 Billion

I suspect New York will be ready to take their piece of the pie before the ink is dry.



posted on Apr, 10 2015 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

It looks like you're just going to hear crickets chirping on this one. Does awkward silence equate to admitting an error in judgement?

Nah, too soon to hope for that.




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