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GOP reins in president’s spending, repeals Obamacare in budget

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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Looks like Republicans are getting serious about getting the wild Democrat binge spending under control.

Deficit spending has been reducing slightly as tax revenues increase since 2011.

But that's not enough as we see from new Republican budget proposals from the House of Representatives.


GOP reins in president’s spending, repeals Obamacare in budget



House Republicans unveiled a budget Tuesday that balances in less than 10 years while prioritizing defense, repealing Obamacare and scaling back the nation’s welfare programs.

The blueprint from House Budget Chairman Tom Price, Georgia Republican, cuts $5.5 trillion in spending and cues up a fight over the parties’ aims for the middle class — and just how far Washington should go in helping them achieve those goals.

Republicans said their plan would secure key programs for future generations, spending slightly over $43 trillion over the next decade in place of the current path, which would crest $48 trillion.




one comment from a Democrat ...


“I don’t understand why Republicans think it’s a good political strategy to take health insurance away from millions of families and put insurance companies back in charge of patients’ lives,” Sen. Chris Murphy, Connecticut Democrat, said.

But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?





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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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From the OP article:

the plan appears to retain the revenues from Obamacare, even as it seeks to do away with it.


Maybe it's not the great budget they are claiming it to be...

bloomberg.com

“What you’re asking me is, yeah, hey, Republicans, why don’t you go on a kamikaze mission here and why don’t you lead and give your political opponents all this ammunition to just slaughter you in the next election?” Senator Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican whose seat is up in 2016, told Bloomberg reporters and editors last week.


O_o





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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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We knew there'd be a 'catch'.

The ACA has been a travesty from the jump, but this is going to make a real hash of it.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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Increase defense spending including moving some of it overseas while screwing over poor Americans that depend on welfare programs. Yup sounds like a Republican plan.



But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?

Yes and no. It's true that everyone is supposed to have insurance now but the companies can't reject for preexisting conditions. And seeing how the Republicans wants to move Medicare into a voucher-type system that just throws more seniors under the bus as some insurance companies will refuse to cover them. Also the Republicans may want to have a little chat with JP Morgan before messing with the food stamp system.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Ya let's cut the 5.5 trillion in health care and social services while beefing up defense when we already spend the most on it.

Makes sense.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Prepare for hordes of comments from people who are incapable of saying anything other than "Bush did it,Bush did it".

I guess they fear actually dealing with the present because they would have to admit that their messiah (obama) is a liar and criminal.

"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."

(watch- his idiot worshippers will deny that he even said it.)
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Increase defense spending including moving some of it overseas while screwing over poor Americans that depend on welfare programs. Yup sounds like a Republican plan.



But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?

Yes and no. It's true that everyone is supposed to have insurance now but the companies can't reject for preexisting conditions. And seeing how the Republicans wants to move Medicare into a voucher-type system that just throws more seniors under the bus as some insurance companies will refuse to cover them. Also the Republicans may want to have a little chat with JP Morgan before messing with the food stamp system.


Interesting, since a gal I know who's cancer came back, is being told it's not covered by her insurance, as it's a pre-existing condition.




posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Cygnis

She needs to get on a new plan, quick! "Grandfathered Plans" are NOT covered under the new law, which is something I didn't know until your post - just looked it up. So sorry your friend's cancer has returned, but she should not be denied insurance under a new plan, even if she has cancer.


One exception: Grandfathered plans

The only exception to the pre-existing coverage rule is for grandfathered individual health insurance plans -- the kind you buy yourself, not through an employer. They don’t have to cover pre-existing conditions.

If you have one of these plans you can switch to a Marketplace plan that covers pre-existing conditions.

You can do this during open enrollment, but be sure to contact your insurance company first to learn about how and when you can cancel your current plan.

You can also buy a Marketplace plan outside open enrollment when your grandfathered plan year ends. Your plan ending gives you a Special Enrollment Period to enroll in different coverage.



peace,
AB

(I know this is slightly off-topic, but somewhat relevant...)



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Cygnis

originally posted by: buster2010
Increase defense spending including moving some of it overseas while screwing over poor Americans that depend on welfare programs. Yup sounds like a Republican plan.



But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?

Yes and no. It's true that everyone is supposed to have insurance now but the companies can't reject for preexisting conditions. And seeing how the Republicans wants to move Medicare into a voucher-type system that just throws more seniors under the bus as some insurance companies will refuse to cover them. Also the Republicans may want to have a little chat with JP Morgan before messing with the food stamp system.


Interesting, since a gal I know who's cancer came back, is being told it's not covered by her insurance, as it's a pre-existing condition.


The ACA removed pre existing conditions from insurance companies. But it's not the first time insurance companies would let someone die so they could save a few bucks.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: Cygnis

originally posted by: buster2010
Increase defense spending including moving some of it overseas while screwing over poor Americans that depend on welfare programs. Yup sounds like a Republican plan.

But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?

Yes and no. It's true that everyone is supposed to have insurance now but the companies can't reject for preexisting conditions. And seeing how the Republicans wants to move Medicare into a voucher-type system that just throws more seniors under the bus as some insurance companies will refuse to cover them. Also the Republicans may want to have a little chat with JP Morgan before messing with the food stamp system.Interesting, since a gal I know who's cancer came back, is being told it's not covered by her insurance, as it's a pre-existing condition.



It is like every other lie we were told about Obamacare would be "this" and "That" for our benefit, but turned out not to be the actual case.

Everything about Obama care is false including the pre0existing conditions part.

How anyone can continue to support a proven pathological liar like Obama goes beyond any coherent thought.



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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




one comment from a Democrat ...


“I don’t understand why Republicans think it’s a good political strategy to take health insurance away from millions of families and put insurance companies back in charge of patients’ lives,” Sen. Chris Murphy, Connecticut Democrat, said.

But insurance companies are already in "charge" aren't they?



Ah, xuenchen, you must not have had the awesome (sarc) life altering experience with Insurance companies that I have had.

I was denied health coverage outright for TEN YEARS after having cancer. NO COVERAGE could be purchased on my own. Through a company (this only was for a couple years - their major investor passed away, and therefore so did my job) I was able to obtain partial coverage, but certainly not for anything cancer-related. No tests, no checking for follow up with my oncologist. Nada.

I'm extremely lucky to be alive today.

Insurance companies...are bean-counting heartless entities that do not care if you die or not, as long as their legalistic language is followed to the nth degree. A MAJOR accomplishment of the ACA was to take out the concept of pre-existing conditions from the NEW plans (Grandfathered plans not included, apparently - see post above...)

Do NOT be of those who are so blind they cannot see the good that has come from the ACA, even though there are plenty of wrinkles to iron out. If our government actually functioned and didn't fall into these black and white RvD battles, we might actually have a MUCH better ACA law.

But who am I kidding? Some people will call the ACA evil, no matter what. I know I will continue to think of the insurance companies (not their employees) as pretty evil, and only curbed in somewhat by the ACA...

- AB



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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They don't even try to hide it anymore. They don't give a damn about the people, at least with Democrats we will go broke by feeding our hungry elderly and needy.

As long as the GOP's bloated defense budget stays intact it's all good.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: Cygnis

Thank you for stating that. I also have cancer that came back . Unfortunately for me , due to the current situation of this Administration wanting to "spread the wealth" I was laid off from my job. Yes , I can still get insurance as can anyone else but it really will cost a small fortune per month. And I cannot keep the same specialists at a world renowned hospital as I had . With the absolute lies that were published by the current admin about the affordable health care act (should be called Pelosi care but of course she did not want that monstrosity associated with her name) it should be completely done away with , and a new system instigated. Please people , take it from someone that has experience with this and get out the word


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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Cygnis

She needs to get on a new plan, quick! "Grandfathered Plans" are NOT covered under the new law, which is something I didn't know until your post - just looked it up. So sorry your friend's cancer has returned, but she should not be denied insurance under a new plan, even if she has cancer.


One exception: Grandfathered plans

The only exception to the pre-existing coverage rule is for grandfathered individual health insurance plans -- the kind you buy yourself, not through an employer. They don’t have to cover pre-existing conditions.

If you have one of these plans you can switch to a Marketplace plan that covers pre-existing conditions.

You can do this during open enrollment, but be sure to contact your insurance company first to learn about how and when you can cancel your current plan.

You can also buy a Marketplace plan outside open enrollment when your grandfathered plan year ends. Your plan ending gives you a Special Enrollment Period to enroll in different coverage.



peace,
AB

(I know this is slightly off-topic, but somewhat relevant...)


She just started this new job back in December of 2014. So I'm not sure how old her insurance is, but I'll bring it up to her.

Thanks for the tip.. I'll have her check.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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Democrats we will go broke by feeding our hungry elderly and needy.




Do you even keep up with politics? Unless youre a complete party line toe'er, theres no way in hell you could actually say that with a straight face and actually believe it......

Everything they have done since the white house became Obamas has made it WORSE for the elderly and needy....

Besides how are they goign to go broke feeding people? You cant feed elderly or needy when they die because they cant afford the healthcare they said was going to "cover everyone"



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80Ya let's cut the 5.5 trillion in health care and social services while beefing up defense when we already spend the most on it.

Makes sense.
Considering the largest portion of the budget goes to social services, cutting a few trillion wouldn't hurt.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: paradoxious

But then going to something we already spend more on then any other country...
Seems like a pointless cut just to bloat an already bloated defense budget



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard

But who am I kidding? Some people will call the ACA evil, no matter what. I know I will continue to think of the insurance companies (not their employees) as pretty evil, and only curbed in somewhat by the ACA...

- AB


Healthcare for profit is evil. The ACA is evil because it does nothing to curb the runaway price-gouging that is the core of the problem, it merely perpetuates it.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 11:46 PM
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Yeah let me tell you what no political party that wants to continue to exist does, take healthcare away from millions of Americans. That is political suicide. Not that the GOP can agree on anything anyway making this thing a fiasco anyway. In a time when companies like Walmart are caving to public pressure screwing the poor would only quicken the end of an alread fading GOP.



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