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Anti Israel haters, how do you answer this?

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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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A. how do you answer when the HAMAS CHARTER calls for the destruction of Israel

B. how do you answer when the leader of Hezbollah which is endorsed and has representatives in the Iranian government and Iranian ayatollah circle said `` if all the jews gather in Israel it will save us having to go around the world and find them``.

So for all the morons who claim Israel and Zionism do not represent Judaism, and that Iran wants to just dismantle the state of Israel and not kill jews, WRONG!

All i am asking for is a direct, non sugar coated answer to what i have said above..
if you are going to change the topic dont bother,
You have two direct non edited statements from people with a lot of influence in Iran and the Arab world outright stating they want to destroy Israel AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE!

This is modern day anti semitism, its hiding behind computers and political correctness with oh we dont hate jews we hate the ``occupation`` blah blah blah.... dont worry, its giving into these islamic ideoloigies and trying to appease them which is the exact reason why Europe is in the state it is, and why within the next century Europe will be a majority islamic, all through your trying to be politically correct and appease them!

It makes me facepalm when people on here, an INTERNET FORUM, who have never been to Israel and know nothing more than what they see on a youtube video or a bbc report, go and claim than Netanyahu is constantly beating the war drums.

May i remind you that just a few decades ago 6 arab countries set out to destroy Israel all at once?
May i remind you Israel is the size of Wales, and the arabs/muslims have 99.9 per cent of the middle east!!
But, hey lets be poltiically correct and feel sorry for the muslims and give them Israel right?

Regardless of all this, i know you will not answer the direct statements above, prooving that this IS anti Jewish, not just anti Israel!
Because a few morons from the satmar orthodox jewish sect hold banners saying zionism isnt judaism, you use propeganda like that to claim zionism isnt judaism.

And lets say you were right about that, it is still irelevant, because once again Iran have said they want to wipe out THE JEWS!!!!! not just Israel!

I am so done with this forum, the amount of anti Israel and biousness is ridiculous on here, you base everything off bbc reports and internet forums, and have no clue what is actually happening there. I lived there for ten years! I know. Ive been through the arab shuk in east Jerusalem and heard the ``kill the jews`` from the palestinians there. Not ``kill the zionists``.. it was ``kill the jews``!!!!!




posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty

can you truly fault the palestinians...really?
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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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You have two direct non edited statements from people with a lot of influence in Iran and the Arab world outright stating they want to destroy Israel AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE!


No! What I have is your biased assertion that this is what they said. Then you insult everyone who has an opposing view by calling them all 'Morons'




because once again Iran have said they want to wipe out THE JEWS!!!!! not just Israel!


That speech was in front of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

It was later found that it was in fact Israeli translators that had done the translating.

What he said was "Wipe Zionism off the map" and I agree with him.


On the other hand we have Bibi running around telling the world that Iran must be destroyed.

The Israeli Govt is full of radical terrorists that do have access to atomic weapons. That is scary!

It would be nice if we could just wipe all of the radicals off the face of the world.

P

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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: kayleighkitty

I am so done with this forum


Ok, goodbye.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:56 PM
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please go back to your Israel......

and stay there......its your kind of environment .....a reply to: kayleighkitty


(post by solarstorm removed for a manners violation)

posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty

I can humbly say, I AM ANTI ISRAEL, ANTI ZIONISM.

You're welcome!










posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty

The questions you ask serve no purpose. Hate does not contemplate justification. Hate is fueled by blind rage that answers to nothing. There will be no peace. Israel will have to fight to preserve all they embody and occupy. Peaceful embraces will not shelter Israel from regimes bent on hate leaning towards genocide. The war will come, regardless of all attempts to delay or difuse. Unfortunately, someone's ideal must die...perhaps to be reborn.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358

On the other hand we have Bibi running around telling the world that Iran must be destroyed.


Let's be fair here. When has Mr. Netanyahu called for the destruction of Iran? He wants to stop their nuclear weapons program - that is a long way from destroying Iran.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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This chico right here says, not my problem. Deal with it. Without my tax money targeting children playing soccer on the beach with clear visual confirmation, or dropping hot flack on UN childrens schools. And without anymore of my peoples lives. Grab your navy, get air rights permissions, and just go at it. We are not going to stop you. Just leave us out of it. Stop buying up all my countries representatives and having them send my friends and family to the other side of the world to get blown up by people who do not agree with yall


We got our own problems with Central American drug cartels and their death cult mercenaries just as bad as Daesh.

I love all yall except the #s that think it is our responsibility to bark when ordered too. Does not sound like a very respectful relationship, and do not expect me to respect it.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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The Balfour Agreement was used as justification for the "return" of Jews to their homeland and creation of the state of Israel taking land from people who never had a say.

Israelis could not even live up to their part of the agreement which called for two states and one capitol.

Now they seemed fixated on stealing as much land from their neighbors as is possible. Is it any wonder that any group effected with a modicum of self respect or self preservation instinct would see Israel as a mortal threat and enemy of the first degree?

What exactly does the united states get out of it? The billions in direct aid and hundreds of billions in indirect aid are a complete waste of money and would be no less harmful to the integrity and self determination of the united States than if we gave all the money to Isis.

At least Isis would be upfront about trying to destroy the united States.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty

Do you have any sources to your rant?



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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Ill address your questions ,but first answer me this




posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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Why has nobody answered her questions? All I have heard is standard anti-Israel buzzwords. How do you answer the questions? I want to know what you have to say about Hamas' statements about Israel. And please don't just say the poor Palestinians have no other choice because Israel is so bad.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:08 PM
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One thing I have learned about ATS
never, ever, ever expect anyone on ATS to be kind or rational
when it comes to
either Christianity
or Judaism

Unless you get into an all Christian thread. Even there the haters far outnumber
the positive remarks.

So venting with such hostility in the OP tone did little to engender
rational or reasonable responses.

I totally support Israel for all the reasons you stated,
and now the bashers/haters/ and loathers off all things Jewish will come

The Jewish people are so hated in the world,
that they need a refuge, and even in their refuge,
their tiny plot of land.
The rest of the world wants total genocide and annihilation
I don't get the hatred.
Never will understand those who hate the Jewish people so deeply.
You will see that shortly in responses if they aren't already posted as I am typing.

Hasn't the world done enough to the Jewish people
by ignoring the Holocaust when it was happening?
The world ignored the Holocaust when it was happening
and it was NOT the reason the US became involved
(it was because of Pearl Harbor, so the US was no savior for the Jewish people)
and even now many on ATS
think that "getting rid of the Jews"
will solve the worlds problems.


Hardly,
mankind is the problem
Mankind is so full of hate for those they disagree with
that they can never just live and let live
or even give up a tiny bit of space in the world
to allow a handful of people they dislike
to live in peace.

I am ashamed of the leadership of the US
which shows such hatred
and hostility toward such a small percentage of people

who only want to live their religion in peace.

But many in the US
and around the world
will never allow people of faith, especially Jews
to live in peace
because they hate people of faith so deeply and viscerally.


Just watch and see how hated upon I will be for writing
the truth of how the majority of people on ATS
and the majority of the current people in the
highest positions of power in the US
loathe, despise and hate all Christians and Jews.

The OP comments however, did little to engender
anything but to rile up the haters of all things Jewish or Christian
Just watch, they will pile on this thread
like killer bees in a swarm.
How sad.




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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty



A. how do you answer when the HAMAS CHARTER calls for the destruction of Israel

According to Hamas they stopped using that charter years ago. Now how about that Likud charter which calls for Palestine to be wiped off the map?
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”

b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”

c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”

d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.



So for all the morons who claim Israel and Zionism do not represent Judaism, and that Iran wants to just dismantle the state of Israel and not kill jews, WRONG!

I suggest you read the Balfour declaration. They didn't make the agreement with Jews they made the agreement with Zionist Israel is a Zionist state not a Jewish state.
Also how can they claim to be Jews when they don't even follow the laws that God gave them like thou shalt not kill and thou shalt not steal. Also that there is supposed to be no Jewish state until the return of the Messiah? Is Britain and the UN the Messiah?



This is modern day anti semitism, its hiding behind computers and political correctness with oh we dont hate jews we hate the ``occupation`` blah blah blah.... dont worry, its giving into these islamic ideoloigies and trying to appease them which is the exact reason why Europe is in the state it is, and why within the next century Europe will be a majority islamic, all through your trying to be politically correct and appease them!

Talking about the laws that Israel breaks or the way they treat the Palestinians isn't antisemitism also speaking out against Zionism isn't antisemitism. That old whine doesn't work anymore.


May i remind you Israel is the size of Wales, and the arabs/muslims have 99.9 per cent of the middle east!!

So what? Because it is small they should be allowed to wipe Palestine off the map and ethnic cleanse the land?


But, hey lets be poltiically correct and feel sorry for the muslims and give them Israel right?

How can you not feel sorry for people that have had and are still losing land that has been in their family for centuries to a bunch of foreigners that have no ties to the land whatsoever? Israel should move back to the borders of the land they were given in 48 and pay reparations to the Palestinians. Also prosecute and imprison a settlers that have committed crimes that Israel does nothing about. The same thing that happened to the Native Americans is happening to the Palestinians.



And lets say you were right about that, it is still irelevant, because once again Iran have said they want to wipe out THE JEWS!!!!! not just Israel!

Actually they say Zionist not Jews. If Iran hates the Jews so much then how can they have such a large population of Jews? Also let's not forget that those Jews turned down Israels offer of money to move to Israel because as they told Israel "our faith isn't for sell".



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: kayleighkitty

You may not get much support. Supporting Israel is a bad topic here. It's why I avoid these threads, honestly. Too much hate for jews, Zionism.

I admire the fact that you're willing to post a thread like this.

SnF



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: itguysrule

originally posted by: pheonix358

On the other hand we have Bibi running around telling the world that Iran must be destroyed.


Let's be fair here. When has Mr. Netanyahu called for the destruction of Iran? He wants to stop their nuclear weapons program - that is a long way from destroying Iran.


Do not try to speak rational with these people
their anti Israel hatred is far too obvious
along with their mentality of everything and anything is a false flag!
tin foiled nut jobs!



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:11 PM
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Did you accomplish whatever it was you set out to do Jan 16th?

See ya kk - you're a special grill.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: kayleighkitty

You may not get much support. Supporting Israel is a bad topic here. It's why I avoid these threads, honestly. Too much hate for jews, Zionism.

I admire the fact that you're willing to post a thread like this.

SnF


Meh, i laugh when people post a pic of 1 or 2 satmars (a tiny sect of orhodox judaism who a per centage of satmars are against the state of israel), and post links to some online forum and go ``there we go most jews hate israel`` lol

there are looneys and nutters in any sect or religion!



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