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I have reason to believe ISIS is a personal project of Satanist David Myatt

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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:01 AM
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I have reason to believe ISIS is apersonal project of british Satanist David Myatt. Myatt is the man behind the Order of Nine Angles, one of the most notorious Satanic sects, who condone human sacrifice and "culling of the mundanes (non-Satanic persons)"

Myatt has at various times been an influencial member of the Neo-Nazi, Satanic and Islamic community.

From the 70s through the 90s he was a member of Neo-Nazi groups including Column 88 and Combat 18, a paramilitary organization. His book "A Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution" is belived to be the inspiration for the london nail bombings of 1999, carried out by his associate David Copeland.

After 3 decades of Neo Nazi, Nationalist and National Socialist involvement, Myatt suddenly converted to Islam shortly after the September 11th attacks.


His intelligence and devotion quickly made him a respected member of influential Islamist forums. Posting as Abdul Aziz, and later Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt, his posts advocated a return to a more strict adherence to Quaranic scripture. He also praised Osama bin Laden and his essay defending the use of suicide bombing in Jihad was featured of the website of the militant branch of Hamas for years. One of his ideas was that there is no way to practice true Islam without a Caliphate. This has since become the central idea to the organization now commonly referred to as ISIS.

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While the idea that a hardline Neo Nazi in his 50s would suddenly and enthusiastically convert to Islam seems absurd one need only look to his Satanic writings under the psuedonym Anton Long to understand the switch.

While on the path to Adept in his Left Hand Path systen of magick, Anton Long advocates taking up an "Insight Role". An Insight Role is a profession or life path seemingly antithetical to the Satanist's true beliefs or personality, yet still further the Satanic or Sinister Agenda. Some recommendations include police officer, soldier, neo-nazi or jihadi.

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Though this may all seem like idle speculation an important clue was found in this months's issue of The Atlantic. Reference is made to a "western convert, a sort of leader" that helped to galvanize the ideology behind ISIS. Myatt has shown this ability to both create a belief system and then propagate and lead it twice in his life, both as a Neo Nazi and a Satanist. The circumstantial evidence pointing towards Myatt as this "Man behind the curtain" is compelling. It would be the perfect culmination to a career that has been devoted to death, dischord and the destruction of the Jews and the backing of the "Zionist New World Order".

Recommended reading: www.theatlantic.com...





I have been researching this for a while now. Feel free to ask any questions especially if you can help with the research.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

Hm, nice investigative abilities you got there, mate


I don't know if your theory is right or not, but it is interesting, yes, interesting indeed.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:10 AM
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Would love to see more if you have more.

This theory could possibly tie into another popular theory about Muslim involvement with the Nazis during WWII and there being bigger actors at play here and the.ir silent support for the execution of the war in Iraq to fracture it and open the path for ISIS to gain strength.


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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

From jackboots to sandals.
He searched for traction
But settled for flip flops-instead


edit on 1-3-2015 by Borisbanger because: added ' instead' to impress my self



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:24 AM
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I've long been saying that ISIS is an infiltration group...

Nothing will sway my opinion polar to that conclusion...



However my initial thoughts were extremist Communism blended with extremist anti-theist doctrine...
A New Manifesto, so to speak...



Although that being said, this extemist-Satanic connection is a very compelling...

& just as believable as my original stance...



Something to ponder and research, for sure.



S&F...
Welcome to ATS... Great name too



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

This is most of what I have right now. He has written Thousands upon thousands of pages of texts between his Satanic, Nazi and Muslim Ideologies. What most interest me right now are his Islamic postings but they are proving tough to uncover as "Abdul Aziz"" is an extremely common name and from what I have figured out masny of his posts were on understanding-islam.com forums which are archaic with not search or sort functionality. There is also the possibility they have all been deleted since he "quit all forms of Extremism". Interesting that the decision to quit came within weeks of ISIS declaring their Caliphate and many of his goals becoming realized.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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Interesting Thread.

Wiki says he converted in 1998 (before 9/11), and publicly denounced Islam in 2010, so I guess now he's a devil worshipper again?

Sounds to me like a British Agent trying to form links between the extreme right and radical Islam...

en.m.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Thanks. I will stick around here and post any new leads as I find them.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: Signals

It is my belief that he has always and will always be both a Satanist and a Neo-Nazi. The conversion to Islam was a sham so that he was able to influence the Jihadis to further his own goals. There is also the possibility that the Nazi Ideology was just a convenient way for him to gain allies and spread hatred and violence. Inversely he may have been using Satanism to spread his Nazi agenda. The reason I believe that he is sincere in both Neo-Nazi and Satanic Agendas however is the fact that there are many Aryan and White Supremacy discussions in His Satanic literature which he was writing under the pseudonym Anton Long and he can be tied to both Ideologies as far back as the 1970's. The conversion to Islam however was very late and very abrupt with seemingly no precursors.

here is a link to his core Satanic scriptures. archive.org...

He has been known to use many pseudonyms and sock puppet accounts and his writing is pretty distinctive in style so I assume he is the author of all of these books until I find a good reason to think otherwise.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

I forgot to add: There is a user on the stormfront forums that is almost certainly him as well. The user DarkLogos defends Myatt any time his name is mentioned with anything other than the highest praise. He even goes so far as postiung a link to a purchase of his autobiography.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:06 AM
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I normally just read anything Isis related as i have no vested interest in the topic other than condemnation of their actions and bafflement at the way they work.. and that's a rather common sentiment..

But this.. this explains much. It's almost a *bingo* moment.. but for many to even understand the gravity they must also realize where we all are in the game, and that satan.. or at the very least, hardcore satanism/blood ritual is a very real thing.

They may run under a false banner (muslim) but from the very first moment they were plastered over the media i had the feeling they weren't truly what they say they are.. as we've seen religious extremism in many forms (sects) over the years but isis takes it all to a level that even garners them condemnation from those they (supposedly) align with.

On a tangent.. and slightly OT but inline with the OP and it's implications i have a few questions for anyone that's knowledgeable in such matters.

Do you think boko-haram is in on this too? they seem to *conduct* themselves in much the same manner.. in some respects a far more "in your face and smiling" evil.
If this is as feared, do you think they are going to try to climb the steps?
Based on what we know, how do we calculate which step they reside on at this present time?

Just FYI for those baffled by what i just asked.. I've known and consorted with many satanists, and I've read a far bit of that theology.. im not aligned with that however, It's just a path i walked at one time trying to understand the esoteric.

I almost don't want to press reply, to be honest.. as i know the world has it's blinders firmly in place and this post will possibly get torn up in a fury of "nothing exists other than my iphone.. stop saying the scary things"

and that.. is exactly how we got to this point... so i AM pressing reply, and folks would do well to listen.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

Nicely done researched thread! I never heard of this guy, but I always felt ISIS and all the other radical Islamist movements have an evil and satanic base. I find it alarming that the minds of innocent young people can be changed so quickly to join a cause of brutally murdering men, women and children. It's almost like they're minds are possessed! Satanic influence? I definitely think so!



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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Dudes a nut job. He's been a satanist, neo nazi and a muslim?

A changeling with no rudder or anchor. But good anti muslim fodder to be sure…



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes
Never heard of him,but-
This lowlife sounds like a high funtioning,mentally unstable,delusional and manipulative psychopath-in fact just the sort of person the degenerates of ISIS would love as an advisor.

You could be onto something.

Kudos for originallity of subject!




posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

Does he have money?
If you are to create something like ISIS you need millions to do so,and keep it running.
Muslims aren't backing these nutballs only Jihadists.
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: Xarian6

It is my opinion that ISIS and Boko Haram feel that they are being good Muslims. I think there is the possibility that one evil man found the most terrible Ideas in the Koran and, through intelligent writing and persuasive argument convinced these people that this behavior is more than just acceptable. He convinced them that it is the only way to salvation. Once he was able to do this It "went viral", spreading like wildfire to a point that is most likely well beyond his wildest dreams.Once this happened he immediately denounced Islam because it could only attract attention to himself Once the seeds of this Ideology began to blossom they was little he could do to steer it or control it, and no need to regardless.

But again this is only my speculation and I hope that people take these ideas, further the research, and come up with their own conclusions.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

Quality narrative. I'm reserving judgement. Really far fetched that this guy just walks in and has the credibility to direct Jihadists. Not plausible.

The leader of any of these factions tend to be more intelligent and more interested in keeping control than getting to paradise. It has to be that way. Don't let emotion cloud your judgement. They are not all zombies. It's not likely this guy gets through the lieutenants.

The OP and the replies are really fascinating when looked at as a set.

(Islam == Satanism) != WASPs. This theme has been climbing the charts lately
where could it be coming from?

BTW, the Jewish treatment of the concept of Satan is such that they believe Christians are totally fooled and misled anyway. Satan is an angel helping God sort out the unworthy, not an enemy to be fought. Jews know Christians have a weak spot when it comes to the concept of Satan. The Muslim concept of Satan is a catch all for everything unclean, unmanned, lazy and distracted from the program. It's generalized to the point of absurdity.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 11:11 AM
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Nice theory and great work, but I cannot agree with it. The US, and even now with help of other nations, have been seemingly unwilling to actually destroy/dissolve ISIS. Sure, there are airstrikes happening, but they are just part of the show. You mean to tell me, that the strongest military the world has ever seen, along with the "help" of many other nations, are unable to stop this group of desert vagabonds, but we have utterly destroyed actual countries with actual millitaries, with relative ease within a shorter period of time? No way! The US went in and hunted down Saddam, cowering in a spider hole, with relative ease, but ISIS, the guys mind you that are fighting the rest of the world with knives, and fire and cages, so far seem to be an unstoppable force. I just cannot believe that the US is that incapable.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 11:22 AM
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Interesting..I looked him up and it seems he has rejected his extremist past..Here is a paragraph from his Wiki page..take it for what it's worth?


Since 2010 Myatt has written extensively about his rejection of both Islam[25] and his extremist past,[26][27] writing that: "What I [...] came to understand, via pathei-mathos, was the importance - the human necessity, the virtue - of love, and how love expresses or can express the numinous in the most sublime, the most human, way. Of how extremism (of whatever political or religious or ideological kind) places some abstraction, some ideation, some notion of duty to some ideation, before a personal love, before a knowing and an appreciation of the numinous

No offence but I think the OP is a day late and a dollar short.
Cheers
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: InSatanIsisServes

Quality narrative. I'm reserving judgement. Really far fetched that this guy just walks in and has the credibility to direct Jihadists. Not plausible.
The leader of any of these factions tend to be more intelligent and more interested in keeping control than getting to paradise. It has to be that way. Don't let emotion cloud your judgement. They are not all zombies. It's not likely this guy gets through the lieutenants.



He had an essay that was prominently featured for years on Hamas', that is a fact. He was respected. And I completely agree that these leaders are most often interested more in power than paradise. That is precisely why he may have been so successful. He wasn't looking for power of any sort, not land nor followers nor soldiers. He acted as a philosopher for the movement. He was able to steer the ideology of the movement without any sort of power struggle. He offered interpretations of the Koran that appealed to these groups but never angered them because he asked for nothing in return. The plan seems to be to was jihad and the most brutal and chaotic fashion possible and it made no difference to him who executed that plan. With that attitude there was no one questioning of his leadership because he never interfered with anyone else's individual quest for power or glory.




edit on 1-3-2015 by InSatanIsisServes because: closed quote in wrong spot



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