Secret Rendition Sites, For US Citizens, Confirmed Inside the US.

One of the most closely-held secrets of American law enforcement has been clandestine rendition sites inside the US. Rumors and well-informed speculation have placed these intensely-secret locations in or near New York City, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Dallas, Los Angeles, Seattle, and Chicago. Initially created for the secret detention and "interrogation" of foreign national terrorism suspects, well-informed insiders know that just about all of these secret sites are now used by domestic law enforcement for everything from organized crime to drug offenses.


In many cases, criminal lawyers unable to locate their clients "inside the system," come to the assumption that they're off-the-books in one of these secret domestic rendition centers. Illegal acts against US citizens include:

Keeping detained citizens out of official booking databases and blotters.

Repeated beatings and torture, by unknown officers in unknown locations, making complaints impossible.

Hard restraints such as shackles and arm-extending restraints, intended to cause pain, for hours.

Denying attorneys or uninformed law enforcement access to the secret and ultra-secure facilities.

Holding citizens as young as 15, while refusing access to legal counsel, for hours and sometimes days.


If this all sounds like some plot element of the fictional "24" TV series, you'd be correct, and also wrong. One site, in Chicago, has been confirmed in a detailed exposé in The Guardian:

The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Brian Jacob Church, a protester known as one of the “Nato Three”, was held and questioned at Homan Square in 2012 following a police raid. Officers restrained Church for the better part of a day, denying him access to an attorney, before sending him to a nearby police station to be booked and charged.

Cherished readers and co-conspirators of ATS, this is serious. Law enforcement in the United States is out of control.

a reply to: mister.old.school

Defund departments. Pull the plug before it's too late.

The things you listed as "illegal" may be legal these days. Please see laws such as the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, NDAA section 1021, and others. What rights do Americans even have anymore?


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a reply to: mister.old.school

So you've seen the History Channels H2's "America's Secret Prisons" I take it? Americans and others moved and held for no reason, no showers for a month, moved to sites right under our noses and in the dead of night without representation...nor phone calls...nor being charged etc...

And that's the tip of the iceberg.....

And to think many of us were called crazy, tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nuts when we called this a few yrs ago.

Peace

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: mister.old.school

Defund departments. Pull the plug before it's too late.

There's an easy way to accomplish that... stop committing crimes.

a reply to: Profusion

On American Soil? All of them.

The last passed, as far as I've read have no provisions for US citizens on US soil being treated this way.

Nor would I imagine such a thing would have passed, even right after 911.

~Tenth

And the steady anti-US rhetoric goes on.
Get rid of police? That would fit fully with the real conspiracy of anarchists at work in the US.

Unbelievable, the # that goes on in society unnoticed. Our societies are very poorly designed and are super limiting to every day tax payers, hence its design, to keep certain in power, and the rest pacified/obedient.

Is it going to take the people of America to band together and end the obvious and corrupted government/establishment?

Or a civil war no one wants?

Century after century after century going all the way back in time since the dawn of banks and governments/hierarchy.. its always been the common PEOPLE who are used, abused, manipulated, cheated, drained and never getting to LIVE LIFE.

All because a handful of asshats who are ego and power hungry - designed a system to give false perception to those living in it, they have no power or choice - thus the pacify, obedient, and fearful state of being a human comes to be.

In such a state of human being, its easy to control, especially when those humans are divided amongst each other, for no apparent reason other then belief and indoctrination (through society and religion).

The po-lice (polarity lice, those opposing the everyday people from being free) - were only meant to safeguard the design and those who designed it. Ever since, people have been like a rat in a box; limited, ignorant, dumbed down, told what to eat and drink, what to do, what to believe, how to live their only life, and retire old in the same box.

Reader, aren't you sick and f*n tired of being limited? Or opposing eachother for true reason other then ideas, beleifs, perception? Meanwhile handfuls take (and keep) the power to themselves to live FREE unlimited lives?

The polarity lice are the only things safe guarding the system, and they abuse their power like any thug. No not all cops, does it matter the ones that don't stand up and preach? To me they are just as guilty, and HUGE cowards for standing by while their fellow 'men in blue' (because they are separate from everyone else :/ ) do corruption in society.

I guess you can call this a mini rant, I apologize. The system is limiting, its safeguarded by these corrupt pigs, and the MAJORITY of humans in society are too comfortable/ignorant/scared/careless to band together and change this corruption.

So we will live another century in limitation of the human race

a reply to: mysterioustranger

The "secret prisons" described in the History Channel softball treatment are federally managed detention centers, and not really that "secret."

The rendition sites of which I spoke in the opening post have been established by regional law enforcement, ranging from state police departments to city police departments.

I think I know of this place in Chicago. I had a cousin work for a company that for whatever reason gave him either access or knowledge to this place.... the facility itself is insanely huge and you will not find it on a map. Hidden in plain view. Can't remember the significance of what he told me it was used for (to his knowledge)... but even he was just floored at the size of the place and how he had never heard of it before..

originally posted by: Bone75

There's an easy way to accomplish that... stop committing crimes.

You don't seem to get it. If law enforcement is corrupt it doesn't matter what you are doing. Anything can be considered a crime. You just have to "look suspicious" to be detained and to a corrupt cop everyone looks suspicious.

It's not surprising at all.

There has always been that gnaw at the gut intuition that the "War on Terror" tactics used overseas would eventually be used domestically. It's naive to think that stops with just the militarized equipment LEOs use, like LRADs

What really struck me about the article is the absolute in-your-face disdain portrayed by the personnel for even the rights of an average citizen who was not violating the law:

When a Guardian reporter arrived at the warehouse on Friday, a man at the gatehouse outside refused any entrance and would not answer questions. “This is a secure facility. You’re not even supposed to be standing here,” said the man, who refused to give his name.

An officer told her, “Well, you can’t just stand here taking notes, this is a secure facility, there are undercover officers, and you’re making people very nervous,” Bartmes recalled.

Apparently just being a citizen on the street, inquiring about the facility is dangerous.

Anyone associated or complicit with the maintenance and use of these sites on U.S. citizens ought to be prosecuted.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: mister.old.school

Defund departments. Pull the plug before it's too late.

There's an easy way to accomplish that... stop committing crimes.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

Ayn Rand

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
And the steady anti-US rhetoric goes on.
Get rid of police? That would fit fully with the real conspiracy of anarchists at work in the US.

The anti-US government rhetoric needs to proceed. There needs to be criticism. Especially when you have near-fascist-level bull# like this.

This is simply insane. This is what a police state looks like. Not much further and you guys will find yourselves in concentration/labour camps.

Normally i would tell you guys to turn around before it's too late. It, unfortunately, is already too far gone.

Bloody hell.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: mister.old.school

Defund departments. Pull the plug before it's too late.

Precisely!

The only remedy for corruption of power is the removal of the corrupt power, not reassignment to another entity, not renaming and especially not increased funding ostensibly for increased 'transparency' which we do not (and will not) have.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
And the steady anti-US rhetoric goes on.
Get rid of police? That would fit fully with the real conspiracy of anarchists at work in the US.

Actually, I'd beg to differ. I believe that what you are calling "anti-US rhetoric" is actually the lifeblood of America. The distillate, if you will.

We were born of rebellion. And this, most certainly, is a cause for rebellion. Amongst many, many others.

originally posted by: Klassified

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand

"The more rules and regulations,
The more thieves and robbers."

-Lao Tzu

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: Klassified

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand

"The more rules and regulations,
The more thieves and robbers."

-Lao Tzu

Bloody brilliant....

F'king brilliant.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Sooth. Yet even Clancy, hardly an enemy of the state, in his latest novel,-written by Mark Greaney- refers to an FBI mechanism whereby individuals that they wish to 'retain' when legal means are too 'cumbersome' are institutionalized via psychiatrists 'order'.

(This was not uncommon during WWII where individuals where incarcerated in Elizabeth, N.J. fed massive amount of drugs leaving them drooling idiots and dried off those drugs and released after the end of the war.)

The FBI agents even have a nickname for this action- it escapes me at the moment- as it is NOT uncommon.

One only has to look at the barriers our police, national and local, face, including Gitmo, to see how such a mechanism would be justified. Just sparingly, at first, then become more accepted to the point of abuse down the line.

It's drawback being it's ease of use and lack of oversight. Not much different than the rest of gov't operation. "need-to-know", national security issue...on and on.

It's safe to assume this occurs and ends up abused. Just the nature of the beast....