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The hope of Hydrogen

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posted on Jul, 9 2015 @ 07:34 PM
Ok so you have your Tesla vehicle you have charged via your solar PV Tesla battery pack overnight.

But what if you had an additional methanol fuel cell that also charged the battery when you were out on the open road.

Modern F1 race cars use a separate 'power pack' hybrid units to run their cars

posted on Jul, 9 2015 @ 07:44 PM
The interesting thing with methanol as a battery storage of energy is its easier to store than hydrogen in a tank. That methanol can be generated via a self contained domestic sewerage processing plant at our own homes if we wish.

If collect and add dog faeces to our tanks we super generate methanol direct for our fuel cells at home to charge Tesla vehicle and run our via our Tesla Powerwall or Powerpack. Its an accompaniment of solutions to both home and car.

Methanol is leaking from rubbish tips, destroying our atmosphere faster than anthropogenic CO2 production yet we can create methanol with gas and make it inert via a fuel cell generator.

Having methanol fuel cells in cars will reduce battery weight and costs.
edit on 9-7-2015 by oilNGO because: ADDITIONAL INFO

posted on Jul, 9 2015 @ 08:07 PM
And the interesting thing with having a home methanol generator is that currently water is used as a 'vehicle' for our sewerage transport via pipes to waste water treatment plants.

Storing the excrement at home we save billions of litres of water in a poor usage of water to waste water treatment plants miles away. We also pay insane amounts for the pipes and infrastructure to treatment plants.

In many countries your main water cost is not the water, it is $$$$ you are charged to treat your waste water and grey water. With a non-wet dry sump home system, water usage and wastage in the home would be minimal.

Your water bill would plummet!

posted on Jul, 9 2015 @ 08:16 PM
You only have to look at places like India where even coal is out of reach as power generation for the average family but they can generate their own GOBO gas for fuel cell etc electricity generation.

3RD world countries will use their ingenuity to create cheap systems. Poo will be more a commodity. Crap a commodity, who would think....

posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 12:45 PM
a reply to: network dude

Here is another step towards the "Hydrogen Economy" that plans to be an operational demo plant in Japan in 2017. Add to that the "rhetoric may become reality" of Pres Elect moving off of Saudi Arabia oil... maybe the time is right to take the first steps towards a new economy. Even if it is just cabs, fork lifts, and baggage carts at first, it is a welcome step off of hydrocarbons.

Toshiba Corporation... today broke ground on a new Hydrogen Application Center at its Fuchu Complex in western Tokyo. Scheduled to start operation in April 2017, the center will be built around a newly designed H2One™ hydrogen power system that will use renewable energy to produce hydrogen and supply it to fuel-cell powered forklifts operating in Fuchu Complex. Fuel cells can be quickly refueled and are available 24 hours a day, a clear advantage over [conventional] batteries.
We will utilize experience and know-how gained from the Hydrogen Application Center to develop and deliver a H2One™ for use in factories, warehouses, logistics facilities and airports. We want to make Fuchu Complex an environmental model factory for the realization of a carbon-free society where hydrogen energy is widely used.” (press release), Nov. 28, 2016 - Toshiba Promotes Move to Hydrogen Economy with Construction of Integrated Hydrogen Application Center.

From breaking ground to an operational proof of concept plant by April 2017 is a pretty quick achievement! They use photovoltaic (PV) cells for electrolysis of water. Part of their system is a predictive program to ensure there is enough hydrogen available when needed. It is easier to sell systems like this when you can take a group of people on tour for a show and tell on how it works.

Lockheed just did something similar with their energy storage system for one of their divisions in NY state: demo/POC as a selling point.

One way or another, oil is on the decline as "fuel for everything".

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