Originally posted by Muaddib That's hard science and no "speculations, disinformation or lies."

What a outrageous unpolitically correct statement to make!!!!

Its actually as if you think science can answer questions when its against an agenda that says otherwise?


thanks





[edit on 14-7-2007 by edsinger]

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

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ITS SIMPLE HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE! it truly is. (not climatology or weather models etc, or analysing the change and type of effects, just the basis of adding greenhouse gases to the earth closed climate system., and anyone with this Basic understanding understands too the risks and factors of FEEDBACK within such a system. Yous see it does not matter if we are causing 100% of it or 0.001 % of it in a interrelated closed and interdependant long term system such as the earth and climate)
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feedback can be negative, too, ie. stabilizing, didn't you know that? if it was as simple as you claimed, the earth would never have gotten out of warm times with high CO2 concentrations, obviously. it is said that the primordial atmosphere contained more CO2 than oxygen, isn't it? incompatible data?!

something's got to give i presume.

Originally posted by Long Lance
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feedback can be negative, too, ie. stabilizing, didn't you know that? if it was as simple as you claimed, the earth would never have gotten out of warm times with high CO2 concentrations, obviously. it is said that the primordial atmosphere contained more CO2 than oxygen, isn't it? incompatible data?!

something's got to give i presume.

He/she and some others won't understand it... He/she actually thinks that just by having a "high school diploma" people will understand this issue...

There are members who also think that "by just having a high school diploma" you can be an engineer, build skyscrappers, and other such nonsense...

Yes a high school diploma is important, but a high school diploma does not teach you all you need to know...and more so these days when people can graduate and know very little of the subjects they studied....

[edit on 15-7-2007 by Muaddib]

I was thinking about the decrease of solar activity, here's the thing ,

With this decrease of solar activity< what if,

The only thing keeping us out of another ICE age is global warming and co2 emissions,

Now say we happen to correct global warming and cut off our nose to spite our own face,

what a pickle.

[edit on 15-7-2007 by Stormdancer777]

I had to edit this, sorry, I can't figure out how to do it right with the external source thingy,

[edit on 15-7-2007 by Stormdancer777]


[edit on 15-7-2007 by Stormdancer777]

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I was thinking about the decrease of solar activity, here's the thing ,
With this decrease of solar activity< what if,
The only thing keeping us out of another ICE age is global warming and co2 emissions,
Now say we happen to correct global warming and cut off our nose to spite our own face,
what a pickle.

Very good point and I think that is all the non-gw crowd is saying, before spending billions on it. Lets make sure that it is man made and even if it was that we could do something about it.

Especially since 2007 got cooler......

as did 2008......er 2009.....hmmmm


One good thing though with natural gas around $3 a therm, this winter will be a damn cold one and hopefully I can afford it now....

Think Obama will help me pay my bill?.....yeah right.....Cap and Trade....

Global warming is Bunk, and it would seem that many that signed onto it are backing away now.....hmmm